The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!

[MarkE]

No doubt the day will bring a spate of claims that you have not used "scientific arguments" to explain something equivalent to why we don't use color saturation as a measure of the weight of solid objects.

[sarkeizen]

No doubt the day will bring a spate of claims that you have not used "scientific arguments" to explain something equivalent to why we don't use color saturation as a measure of the weight of solid objects.

Well I'm sure I'm capable of showing a non-uniform staircase ALSO not converging on the hypotenuse of a triangle.  It seems trivial enough.

I agree empirical proof is much stronger than any theoretical proof.

This probably comes down to some silly special definition on the term "proof" but this sounds a lot like "one magic trick should be more compelling than the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational"

I...will move onto the empirical side for those who lack any kind of common sense.

I'm probably reading this differently than gravityblock intended...

[MarkE]

Well I'm sure I'm capable of showing a non-uniform staircase ALSO not converging on the hypotenuse of a triangle.  It seems trivial enough.

Yes, but what if the triangle is blue?  Does your geometry consider color?

This probably comes down to some silly special definition on the term "proof" but this sounds a lot like "one magic trick should be more compelling than the proof that sqrt(2) is irrational"
I'm probably reading this differently than gravityblock intended...

I doubt it.  It sounds like you have him pegged.

[sarkeizen]

Yes, but what if the triangle is blue?  Does your geometry consider color?

You're absolutely correct by Mathis logic: "The pencil must have some velocity or acceleration as it moves along the line or curve. "  A circle drawn in the REAL WORLD has a color, a nib width and even a depth (as ink is not 2-dimensional).  It's amazing that Mathis can mentally perform a projection onto a plane that is of uniform colour, depth, and thickness in his head but gets stuck on the time parameter.

[MarkE]

You're absolutely correct by Mathis logic: "The pencil must have some velocity or acceleration as it moves along the line or curve. "  A circle drawn in the REAL WORLD has a color, a nib width and even a depth (as ink is not 2-dimensional).  It's amazing that Mathis can mentally perform a projection onto a plane that is of uniform colour, depth, and thickness in his head but gets stuck on the time parameter.

And how does the pen nib feel?  Has anyone asked the nib if it feels car sick when pushed around a circle?