COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

[Farmhand]

Listener, What about switching the bulbs from a parallel to a series configuration for the duration of the cap discharge as Stefan
suggested ? Or was it the other way around ?

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[gotoluc]

Listener, What about switching the bulbs from a parallel to a series configuration for the duration of the cap discharge as Stefan
suggested ? Or was it the other way around ?

..

I would be very interested in seeing the scope results of a double capacitor Tank being charged in parallel then discharged (through load) in series would have. It would also be nice to test the opposite (series to parallel)

This makes the circuit much more complicated but I'm sure you're up to the task Farmhand

Luc

[listener191]

Hi Farmhand,

That last scope shot was for parallel charge and series discharge caps.

As this will also simulate on Falstad, I have tried 3 caps in parallel and series discharge, with no improvement in discharge amplitude.

I have also tried simulating two inductors charging and discharging. The charge waveform is fine but the discharge waveform although initially a high voltage spike, hence high current, rapidly collapses, so the situation is similar to the parallel/series caps... less area under the discharge pulse  compared with the charge pulse.

To get the PF/phase shift that Babcock/Murray have achieved, i.e. equal areas under the pulse, something else is required.

Barry

[popolibero]

Well, if as Mario said on the other forum the power is just borrowed and returned....

These are actually not my words but Murray's.


regards,
Mario

[listener191]

Attached Falstad capture. Switched identical loads so you can see the power in both directions.

26.12W charge
13.22 discharge 

40W input from source


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