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COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

Started by synchro1, May 07, 2014, 01:25:54 PM

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listener191

Sorry...had the lower opto diode reversed. This one is correct.

Barry

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 30, 2014, 04:55:50 AM
"VARs can be converted to real power but not at a rate of more than the supply can provide it."

Almost right. You can get all the energy in the tank out in microseconds if you want, or sometimes if you don't want. But it will then take time to fill the tank back up, since you have collapsed your resonance.

For example, take the circuit I am working with at the moment. You have seen the tank measurements and the input power measurements. If I cut the coil while the thing is operating, all the stored energy in the tank will be released -- in the mosfets -- in a matter of microseconds. This is a high power level, and I have the blown-apart mosfets to prove it.

Let's amend your statement to say "you cannot get real power out of your VARs _continuously_ at a faster rate than the supply can provide it to keep the tank full."



Ok the confirmation :

"VARs can be converted to real power but not at a rate of more than the supply can provide it."
I feel much safer about some things that had said in the previous post.

" You can get all the energy in the tank out in microseconds if you want, or sometimes if you don't want. But it will then take time to fill the tank back up, since you have collapsed your resonance."

Take time ... How long it takes to fill the tank circuit? Have you sure that tank circuit couldn't fill at same rate or fastest than the supply ?
I see you circuit and i think that understand what you try to show but i think that your circuit does not illustrate the phenomenon in the same way that other people are testing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHXLZ6QJss
You can see in this video, that the output power generated is greater than the input used;
I say that because i use only a pulse in input , and at least in my understanding i think that is a gain . or not ?

About you say : "But it will then take time to fill the tank back up, since you have collapsed your resonance."
If you can reduce the damping in cycles and makes the inductor feed the capacitor, and vice versa, you can maintaining the same resonant current in the circuit, and converting all the current into useful work.
I think is what happens in the video , because after you remove the input power you see that oscillations maintain the circuit running in resonance.

TinselKoala a like your reviews and videos.
Iḿ  your youtube subscriber at least 3 years and i like your dedication at this subject,   but i don't like your temper and tone of your reviews.
I ask you to be gentle in your reply :) in case you want to consider comment on what I said. ;)
I'm always open to healthy criticism :)




Farmhand

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 30, 2014, 04:55:50 AM
"VARs can be converted to real power but not at a rate of more than the supply can provide it."

Almost right. You can get all the energy in the tank out in microseconds if you want, or sometimes if you don't want. But it will then take time to fill the tank back up, since you have collapsed your resonance.

For example, take the circuit I am working with at the moment. You have seen the tank measurements and the input power measurements. If I cut the coil while the thing is operating, all the stored energy in the tank will be released -- in the mosfets -- in a matter of microseconds. This is a high power level, and I have the blown-apart mosfets to prove it.

Let's amend your statement to say "you cannot get real power out of your VARs _continuously_ at a faster rate than the supply can provide it to keep the tank full."

Quite right Tinsel, I should have said continuously, that's what I meant.

Xname, show us how you can convert the VAR's into Watts without reducing the VAR's.

Both Tinsel and I can easily produce oscillating powers (VAR's) to input power in the order of over 100:1 and we can convert that to useful output
and we as well as many others that tell the truth say that when you convert a VAR to a Watt the VAR no longer exists that was
converted, and so that VAR of reactive power cannot be returned to the supply or continue to oscillate, to keep the same VAR's
the supply must provide more power. Any power converted to Watts is real power and is supplied by the power supply.

Forest, energy brought in from outside if it is, has nothing to do with reactive power and if there is an external input it should be
easy to identify and would be the more important part of any investigation into the device. Finding where the extra energy comes
from and how it enters the system would be important.

When people talk reactive power with a grid supplied system they mean power that is supplied by the grid that goes unused by
certain loads and therefore gets returned to the supply that same power can get power factor corrected and consumed as real
power and it does quite often, when that happens the consumed power is real power because it is consumed and cannot return
to the supply.

The instant power is consumed by a load it is real power and only real power is consumed. Reactive power cannot be consumed
by definition.

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listener191

Re the Zero cross circuits I posted.

Only attempt to build these if you are competent  in working with line voltages 115/230V.

I assume no responsibility for safety in the construction and operation of these circuits.

Barry

x_name41

Quote from: Farmhand on July 30, 2014, 04:51:58 PM


Xname, show us how you can convert the VAR's into Watts without reducing the VAR's.


of such like you even if show you such a thing, will again are you looking about what to when he messed. May not to please him of such like you, of a curve rocket space and interferes