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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on June 07, 2014, 10:16:00 PM



Hi Luc,


Thanks for the base vid... you are correct in not being able to see a universal joint... but really bad
engineering not to have something there! Any stiffness there is counter active, meaning the weight
is not going to fall down hill if the stress of the rod is trying to hold it vertically.


Don't forget we are dealing with a machinist of some talent here and even though the stub output shaft
is running true in two bearings, if the top is turning in a true circle
the angle will never change so the stub shaft could be either bent or machined to this constant required angle.


Incidentally, the "fatness" of the outer portion of the 'gear' would suggest chain drive to the
centre output bevel gears.


Ron

I agree with everything you say Ron but somehow I don't think he's a bad engineer, so maybe it's like you say,  bent or machined to this constant required angle. A chain sprocket would also deal with a wobble.
I'll first try like I said with the self alining bearing up top then after the chain sprocket the fixed bearing.

I made another video from a different angle which reveals the center gear also.

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on June 07, 2014, 10:16:00 PM

Hi Luc,

if the top is turning in a true circle
the angle will never change so the stub shaft could be bent

Ron

Come to re-think about it, I think you're right Ron

The top is turning in a true circle as far as I'm concern, so wouldn't small bends in opposite ways to each end of the shaft allow the top to swing and base to stay true?

Luc

havuhung

Hi gotoluc,
In the upper part of the shaft bearings, still a bit unclear! From here it's the steel shaft has been bent or hide a cardan? . .

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on June 07, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
Come to re-think about it, I think you're right Ron

The top is turning in a true circle as far as I'm concern, so wouldn't small bends in opposite ways to each end of the shaft allow the top to swing and base to stay true?

Luc




Yes, Luc, that is correct. Looking at the last video seems to reinforce that the shaft is bent.

For it to work the plate that holds the weight must be above the bend.

If this is true then further confirmation that the upper end of the lever/rod is performing a true circle.


Thanks,

Ron





Craigy

not been here for 5 years good job my password still works

i have started building a small model to undertand what is going on..I am more of a hands on person and that is the best way for me to learn and understand this mechinism.

I have a thought experiment..Imagine a child with effiel tower balanced on its peak, upside down. any input energy to move it off center is equal to the energy to return it to equilibrium..

Now while the device is chasing a continually moving center of gravity , how do we move the center of gravity without expelling the same amount of energy that is gained?

I believe that the secret lies in the centrifugal forces of the second weight. As it spins round and around, its centrifugal force is used to push the main shaft or axis back and forth in its slot..it is that "Extra Energy" that moves the axis, which allows a change in the position of the center of gravity..when you study the orbit of the smaller weight it is clear that it is creating a force vector in the direction of the slot, that vector reverses every 180 degrees..

the energy required by simply moving the center of gravity would cancel as per standard laws..but very little of the input energy is knocking the shaft off center , it is mostly centrifugal force doing the knocking..

I wonder if there are any springs on the sliding mechanism. since the centrifugal force could both compress springs and shift centers of gravity


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