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1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on June 14, 2014, 11:20:30 AM

My apologies Luc, you are quite right, the two stages operate on different principles.
Although I have it the other way around, lol


So to add too and correct my previous post... the following...


I posted the rod angles previously for the left rod but neglected to show the right (centre?) rod, the one
more face on to the camera.  This is important to show the circular motion but more importantly to show what I had missed. So here are the two previous pics and two new pics...




Note that the angle of the rods is nearly identical, indicating circular motion. If the upper drive was a narrow ellipse, as Arron says, then the left rod's movement would be considerably less than the video shows.


HOWEVER, what I had missed is the plate... look at the angle of the plate in the last two pictures, it remains nearly horizontal in each view. The only mechanism for this is that the lower rod has no ball
joints, rather it has a bend top and bottom. Thus the plate rides on top of the lower rod. The plate. not
following the angle of the rod, is therefore not subject to the 'falling weigh' theory.


The centrifugal weight vector is at all times straight out from the virtual centre, the bottom rod is thereby
lead around by this force, lagging behind the upper weight as can be seen in the video.


With the shaft bent top and bottom and the lower weight position above the lower bend it is subject to
the falling weight theory or more correctly a following of the weight to a new centre of gravity.


Luc, I hope this correction is not to late for your build?


Ron

Hi Ron,

doesn't matter the order you see which rod does what,  I'm just glad you see each have a different function.

Interesting we're going back to the double bend idea we had at the beginning.

It's not too late for changes in my build as I'm using my lower rod tensioners idea of adjusting the tensioners to Ark the shaft back towards its weight and that seems to work well and for the top I'm using a self alining pillow block bearing, so I think this combination should work to about the same. What do you think? ... I kind of like this idea since it give a little room for testing before bending the rod to a permanent position.

I need one more full day (Sunday) to finish the build. So possibly Monday I'll test it and hopefully post the demo video before the end of the day.

Luc

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on June 14, 2014, 09:06:35 PM
Hi Ron,

doesn't matter the order you see which rod does what,  I'm just glad you see each have a different function.

Interesting we're going back to the double bend idea we had at the beginning.

It's not too late for changes in my build as I'm using my lower rod tensioners idea of adjusting the tensioners to Ark the shaft back towards its weight and that seems to work well and for the top I'm using a self alining pillow block bearing, so I think this combination should work to about the same. What do you think? ... I kind of like this idea since it give a little room for testing before bending the rod to a permanent position.

I need one more full day (Sunday) to finish the build. So possibly Monday I'll test it and hopefully post the demo video before the end of the day.

Luc




Sounds good Luc, just hope I explained it clearly  and understandably.


Once I see what you have done I can jump in and critique, LOL


Ron


wopwops

This seems like the most promising one I can remember and there's very little activity on the threads about it. Maybe this is a good sign! If you guys know of any youtube channels of people posting replications, please mention. Thanks very much.

wopwops

This was posted on Energetic Forum:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130047754

Mechanical advantage machine
US 20130047754 A1
Abstract A mechanical advantage machine is provided. The mechanical advantage machine may comprise an elliptical track, a mobile weight, and a fulcrum point disposed at a vertex of the elliptical track. The mechanical advantage machine may further include at least one actuation rod coupled to at least one cam, wherein the traversal of the mobile weight about the circumference of the elliptical track causes the track to move causing the actuation rod to move which in turn causes the cam to rotate. A method for generating power may also be provided. The method may include mobilizing a weight about a circumference of an elliptical track comprising a fulcrum point disposed at a vertex of the circumference of the elliptical track, the mobilization pivoting the elliptical track in response to the weight traversing the elliptical track while at least one actuation rod causes the rotation of at least one cam.

qiman

Quote from: wopwops on June 14, 2014, 10:53:47 PM
This seems like the most promising one I can remember and there's very little activity on the threads about it. Maybe this is a good sign! If you guys know of any youtube channels of people posting replications, please mention. Thanks very much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JolNozy8UEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbMUrY5MynA

1-2 years ago, I already had a working prototype of Skinner's machine. The first video has details of how this machine really operates - the second shows my method for an elliptical drive that I already tested at a very small tilt angle and want to do on a bigger scale to rotate the input lever in an elliptical orbit.