1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc


I have to go out but on my return I will write a pdf and a drawing of how I see it (still may not be right), all I can do is put my engineering skills into how it can be done.


The principle is simple, it all works on moving the relation of mass to center of gravity, to move the mass takes too much power, but moving the relation of the center of gravity takes very little and gives you a big gain.


regards


Mike

Okay Mike, but don't put too much time in a pdf presentation. I would be happy with just answers to the questions (when you have time) after seeing the attached video.

Luc

[i_ron]

Here is the second part of the video demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF-ZlkBw46g&feature=youtu.be

Luc

Hi Luc,


Because the gimbal mounted top shaft works backward to the lower shaft it is somewhat speed related.
At rest the top weight collapses down and in and only above a certain speed will the upper weight fly out
with sufficient force to balance the combined weight of the lower. When at the correct speed and correct weight for both upper and lower will the two forces balance. Your speed is too low at this time.


Ron 

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc,


Because the gimbal mounted top shaft works backward to the lower shaft it is somewhat speed related.
At rest the top weight collapses down and in and only above a certain speed will the upper weight fly out
with sufficient force to balance the combined weight of the lower. When at the correct speed and correct weight for both upper and lower will the two forces balance. Your speed is too low at this time.


Ron

Hi Ron,

the drive motor is 24vdc and by using my variac I can feed it any voltage I want to the point I could destruct the device.  Feeding around 14vdc makes the device turn around 60 RPM. I've tried it up to 18vdc and no change. Anything over that voltage you can see it is a much faster speed then what Mr. Skinner was using.

Luc

[centraflow]

Well, after reading the above five posts I can see everyone has a different version as to why it doesn't work.

My next test was going to be like Mike is saying.  Before I do that, I would like to hear Mike's thoughts on the below.

Since the lower weight support bar on Mr. Skinner's device turns perfectly horizontal with the frame (see attached video), this would suggest if the shaft does have a universal joint it would be above the support bar, no?... however, we don't see a universal joint there. So how do you explain this?
Let's suppose the universal joint is below the weight support bar, then the only way it would turn horizontal to the frame is if he had welded it at an angle of less then 90 degrees, which would also mean the weight support rod would have to be welded to the bar at more than a 90 degree angle.
Do you think this was done?  as it would be the only explanation as to why the bar is turning horizontal to the frame.

Please explain how this can work with the evidence I've presented.

Thanks for your time

Luc

Hi Luc, just got back home


If you think about the lower rod connected by a CV just below the weight holding bar (could be and probably is a thrust bearing with circular movement, all in one) the movement angle at that point is very small in relation to the other end of the rod. Camera angles can be very deceptive when looking at fixed beams to a moving beam.


The bottom weight is high or long for a reason, that is the angle at the bottom is small in relation to the top end of that weight, think of it in a full turn as a cone upside down, the top has a long way to move to create a full circle, the bottom not so much.


The drive to the centre 90 degree gog assembly I expect is a belt (seems he liked belts, will have a look again at that video), the reason I say that is there are 4 units all driving one output, it will self align, a chain would have to have exact timing one with the other, that said at the moment does not matter.


The gimbal mount and transition plate assembly are I think as I have drawn in the attached, this completly detaches the input from the output and the top weight acts like a sling shot. If you think about it the top weight puts in power as well


Great work Luc, I would be doing this as well, but at the moment I have taken on more than I can chew


regards


Mike

[centraflow]

PS.  the lever drive is eliptical and not circular




regards


Mike