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Overunity Machines Forum



1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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Artoj

Hi all
Thanks cipbranea and Stephan,  this is an interesting machine, I have quickly sketched the main elements. I might expand on this with more diagrams, I am in the middle of a few other tasks, I will try and squeeze a big effort on this if I can. Regards Arto.


e2matrix

Quote from: Staffman on May 21, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
This kind of looks like an application of something that I used to do as a kid. I would take a chair and spin it using my hand... imagine holding the top corner of the back and then balancing the chair on the leg (front leg, opposite side). I used to get it spinning by letting the weight of the chair 'fall'. It used to drive my mother nuts. You can get it spinning very quickly, by moving your hand in a circle. Just let it 'fall' and it 'seems' that there is very little energy being expended to do so. Anyway, I suspect that it's basically a flywheel effect... but I've never really thought about laying out the numbers.
Thanks Staffman - I just totally got how this thing works after reading your post and it makes complete sense.   I've done similar things in the past and can relate to that type of action.   

hartiberlin

Hi Arto,
many thanks for the drawing,
but if you use Mediplayer Classic to go frame by frame through the downloaded video
I posted you see, that the upper rods just only go back an forth, like a pendulum.
So at the very top there must the a conversion from rotatry motion from
the drive motor belt drive to a disc that goes only back and forth for 180 degrees
and then reverses again.

So the upper 4 rods only go back and forth like a pendulum.

So it would be interesting to find out, how he the conversion from rotatry motion to
this back and forth motion is done at the very top of the machine.
Unfortunately the whole machine is only seen in the begiĀ“nning in just a few broken frames
and unfortunately only filmed very a bright background, so it is all hard to see...


Did anybody find the address of the Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. in an old
Telefphone book from Miami,Fl  ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Staffman

Stefan


I don't live in FL, but I have emailed the Miami-Dade Library to see if they have some old phone books that could help. If I receive a response, I'll let everyone know. I did search the Florida Secretary of State Corporations database. The Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. was dissolved by proclamation in 1945. The specifics are unknown, Skinner could have failed to file the proper forms; it could have been for any number of reasons. Also, Skinner's address was not listed either. I'll let you know if the library returns my email.


Staffman

Edit... (link to the business info... or should I say lack of info...)
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/EntityName/domp-136668-9c069ead-0077-4ac7-8517-eb226467f2cd/Skinner%20Manufacturing/Page1



e2matrix

Stefan,   If you take a chair and do as Staffman described (at least his description was clear to me - probably because I had done that with a chair or similar object before) I think you can see the motion that is happening with Skinners device.    It seemed intuitive to me how this works in that you are leaning an object on an axis in a way that it wants to fall but being on an axis it will spin as long as you keep a slight pressure on the top point of the axis just keeping it ahead of where it wants to go.   With very little input it wants to spin and due to the weight and centrifugal force it may very well be a way of utilizing gravity as an energy source.   Or so that's my take on what Skinner was doing thanks to Staffman's description of this action.    Right after seeing his description I grabbed a small 4 leg chair and tried this again to get a clearer sense of this action.   On an intuitive level I'm not sure if this can create free energy but it seems it may be possible.