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KARPEN PILE

Started by Philip Hardcastle, May 22, 2014, 10:41:32 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: profitis on July 01, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
@pomodoro you can also attatch a small piece of aluminum foil to both the Pd and Ag when you plunge them into the NaOH to ensure total saturation with H2 and total reduction of surface oxides WHILE piping in a stream of H2.the aluminum will dissolve completely in caustic soda in a matter of 30mins or so.you will see H2 bubbles stream off both electrodes ensuring total reduction of oxides.I'm asking you to build a fuel cell with no oxygen or oxidizers present.
You are going to oxidize Al with water and you claim that no oxidizers are present???

2 Al + 3 H2O =>  3 H2 + 1 Al2O3

profitis

@pomodoro it is powered by HYDROGEN SPILLOVER straight from the textbooks my friend.please google.anode:H2 > 2 H(atomic)>2 H+ +2 e. Cathode:2H+ +2 e >2 H(atomic)>H2 in acids and in bases anode: H2>2H + 2OH- > 2H2O + 2e cathode: 2H2O + 2e- > 2OH- + 2H> H2

profitis

@markE. The only thing in the cell is pure hydrogen,palladium,silver,caustic soda soln.there are no oxidizers present.aluminum dissloves in seconds,if needed.

profitis

@sarkeizen google is saturated with hydrogen spillover,all based on same principal: ficks law of diffusion

pomodoro

Umm I'm not convinced it will run without using up the hydrogen but it shouldn't be too hard to make a tiny version and see how long it supplies current vs a rough estimate of how much h2 was introduced. So what exactly is required? I have pure Ag foil ,plain Pt foil 1.5cm sq but no Pd. I could possibly plate the Pt with Pd but need to check my chemicals. What molarity NaOH and what current   + open voltage are expected. Is the output to be taken continuously or pulsed when voltage recovers?