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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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Quote from: d3x0r on July 27, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Pink flux loops shown are aligned from south to north they deflect to the left if they are facing you and to the right if they are facing away from you given a south field up. ...  resulting in clockwise spin from the outside, and a composite that is counter clockwise in the center.



Ring magnets are not like all-solid magnets, they have complex compounded interlacing fields, all field mediation is along lowest pressure gradients/ boundaries, meaning that mutual reciprocation is not ONLY from "one side to the other" , but in the case of a ring magnet thru the center mutually, additionally.

If you try to push a cone magnet into a ring magnet you will 'feel' this effect.

Or use a field finder magnet you will 'see' this as well.

d3x0r

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on July 27, 2014, 10:09:55 PM


Ring magnets are not like all-solid magnets, they have complex compounded interlacing fields, all field mediation is along lowest pressure gradients/ boundaries, meaning that mutual reciprocation is not ONLY from "one side to the other" , but in the case of a ring magnet thru the center mutually, additionally.

If you try to push a cone magnet into a ring magnet you will 'feel' this effect.

Or use a field finder magnet you will 'see' this as well.
Ya I have 6" ODx4"ID  magnet i played with for a while.  Before that I took a bunch of (forget the name) toys that are n/s magnetic sticks, and bundled them all N/S in a 5" cylinder with a 1/4" thickness... (my 'finder'  was a small 1/8"OD x1/4" tall cylinder magnet, so its mass was easily overcome by the field) but anyway... it's really just as simple as the image I attached indicated.  There isn't a difference in alignment between inside and outside, the difference is that the near side is either towards you or away from you... if you just consider the sides facing you, there's no inversion.

gravityblock

Quote from: tinman on July 27, 2014, 05:52:57 AM
In this test,i have used a ring magnet from a speaker. Here we can see opposite spins,even though we dont change the voltage polarity,or the magnetic fields.

I have also found that it is the magnetic field that turns my camera off-if i get to close to the magnet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCA0rPiS5w&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

TinMan,

The ring magnet has an inverted field in the doughnut hole (inner diameter), and this is explained by the right hand rule and the reason for the opposite spins.  One pole is on the inner diameter, and the opposite pole is on the outer diameter of the ring magnet.  In essence, the ring magnet is magnetized in a similar way as a radial magnet (through the circumference).  Speaker ring magnets are known to be radially magnetized.  Take an axially magnetized magnet and approach the inner diameter of the ring magnet.  If there is repulsion over the inner diameter, then there will be an attraction force over the outer diameter with the same face of the magnet.  So, each face of the ring magnet has two poles.  The inner diameter of each face has opposite poles, and the outer diameter of each face has opposite poles.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

d3x0r

Quote from: gravityblock on July 27, 2014, 10:15:50 PM
TinMan,

The ring magnet has an inverted field in the doughnut hole (inner diameter).  One pole is on the inner diameter, and the opposite pole is on the outer diameter of the ring magnet.  In essence, the ring magnet is magnetized in a similar way as a radial magnet (through the circumference).  Speaker ring magnets are known to be radially magnetized.  Take an axially magnetized magnet and approach the inner diameter of the ring magnet.  If there is repulsion over the inner diameter, then there will be an attraction force over the outer diameter with the same face of the magnet.  So, each face of the ring magnet has two poles.  The inner diameter of each face has opposite poles, and the outer diameter of each face has opposite poles.

Gravock
It's not radially magnetsized.  The inside field in the same as the outside field, and that opposite to the field on the faces of the magnet.
Radial is all north inside and south outside (or vice versa)... if you mean across the diameter that's also entirely wrong...  Each face of a speaker magnet has a single field.

gravityblock

Quote from: d3x0r on July 27, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
It's not radially magnetsized.  The inside field in the same as the outside field, and that opposite to the field on the faces of the magnet.
Radial is all north inside and south outside (or vice versa)... if you mean across the diameter that's also entirely wrong...  Each face of a speaker magnet has a single field.

The inside diameter does not have the same pole as the outside diameter of a ring magnet!  This is explained by the right hand rule and is the reason for the opposite spins.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.