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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on July 28, 2014, 12:28:32 AM
how could you read it otherwise?    obviously.

There is "more than one way to skin a cat"    obviously.


alter maneto-dielectic coherency via CHARGE, or by magnetic induction (which is resultantly WEAK)


magnetic induction ADDS NOTHING, all you have done is rearranged the existing (and then only part of it) inter-atomic magneto-dielectric.   And then only weakly and not permanently.

TA,

The reason I asked is because it is possible to magnetize steel (etc.) without the use of electricity or another magnet.  It seems that you have/are stating that the use of electricity or induction is the basis for, or necessary for, the creation of a magnet.  I am trying to understand your position regarding this. 

PW

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: picowatt on July 28, 2014, 03:18:17 AM
It seems that you have/are stating that the use of electricity or induction is the basis for, or necessary for, the creation of a magnet

If you got that impression, it was wrong.

Any ferrous object is ALREADY dielectrically capacitant,  however incoherent.      Rubbing coherency into a ferrous mass from another magnet has not added anything, only caused partial inductive coherency resultant to the magneto-dielectric inter-atomic alignment going on from rubbing an iron bar or needle with another "magnet" .

Strong field charge from the "genuine" magnet overpowers and induces magneto-dielectric coherency in the iron/needle

And, ...what makes you think stroking an iron bar with a magnet isnt actually also low level induction?

simplex fluid dynamics explains most of this except on a wholly diff. medium.


Its no diff. than inducing vertical lift in an airfoil from high pressure air moving along the air foil.........in this case magnetic current running across the iron bar.


All inter-atomic in the iron bar equalizes to to the magnet inducing the coherent field gradients, some of that equalization remains afterwords...... 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3yCjjbG-0

picowatt

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on July 28, 2014, 04:58:47 AM


And, ...what makes you think stroking an iron bar with a magnet isnt actually also low level induction? [/b]
simplex fluid dynamics explains most of this except on a wholly diff. medium.


I have no idea why you are asking this.

I was asking about when a piece of steel is magnetized without using electricity or another magnet.

PW


minnie




    What you thinking of picowatt? If you heat above CP. And hammer in Earth's
magnetism you're still using another magnet!
                       John.

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on July 27, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
Tinman,

Take a look at this wiki, about half way down the page to "Direction of Force"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

If you apply the rule as given, you will indeed see that it predicts opposite spins on the OD versus ID.  However, it appears to me that both directions are reversed from what the rule would indicate.

You had the south pole up in those tests, correct? (and your compass still point north correctly?  We have seen compasses ruined from being around magnets.  Just asking...) 

If you would, please confirm that the fluid motion is in the same direction as the bubbles using the "flag" idea mentioned.

PW

ADDED:  You need not bother to video the flag test.  If you say the fluid is indeed moving in concert with the bubbles, that's good enough for me.  But, make sure to check the flow right at the edge of the magnet where H2 is being generated.
Quote PW: However, it appears to me that both directions are reversed from what the rule would indicate.
Finally some one see's it-things are back to front to what they should be. I have hinted at this 3 times in this thread and once in the !Thread for naysayers,and shills! Qoute post 187-Most are saying,its just the right hand rule thing(as per homopolar motor),but i dont think any one yet has actually taken notice of the electrical and magnetic polarity of my setup-that i clearly gave in the last video lol.

Quote PW: You had the south pole up in those tests, correct? (and your compass still point north correctly?  We have seen compasses ruined from being around magnets.  Just asking...) 

If you would, please confirm that the fluid motion is in the same direction as the bubbles using the "flag" idea mentioned.

Yes,have tried 3 different compasses-one a very expencive marine compass from my boat-all three are correct,as the marine one still points north. I used a piece of sewing thread to try and see the direction of water flow,but the bubbles just made it float away from the magnet. I then lifted the magnet close to the top of the water level,and dropped in a few drops of red food dye,and it flowed the same direction as the bubbles. I could also see some small bits of rubbish flowing in the same direction as the bubble as the water became contaminated.

Now there was something else in the video before the last,when i had the stream of bubbles coming from the S/S thread bar,and the bought a magnets pole end close to the stream of bubble's.->Did you notice anything there a bit odd as well?. Both the north and south poles of the magnet attracted the stream of H2 bubbles. One would of thought that one of the magnetic polarities would have pushed the bubbles away-but both attract?.

Next weekend,i am going to set up my HHO cell,and run the test again using only gas-no electric current-just to see what happens.