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Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

Started by hartiberlin, July 30, 2014, 08:22:30 AM

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TechStuf

It's no joke.  Those of you that have any experience with hydrogen catalysis, will see the ramifications of the following.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh_0cRYebYU

Abundant power generation, home heating, etc....

Is here now.  For those willing to go after it.

Look at the rate he's getting with ignoble (ie. cheap) metals and only 1.5v! 

Gotta love the intrinsic "irony" of one of the most stable liquids, used to put out fires, easily being split into two of the most flammable gasses known.


Good Journies
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MarkE

Quote from: sparks on August 29, 2014, 03:02:41 PM

    The hydrogen end of the water molecule at the cathode will be attracted to the metal in the cathode.
The molecules turn to align at the lowest energy potential to the field.
QuoteIt forms a hydrogen bond to the cathode metal.
Unless I am mistaken, that bond is very weak.
QuoteThe electric field of the electrons in the metal extend through the passivated layer.
Since we have a big externally applied field that is what dominates.  It is what caused the molecules to turn in the first place.
QuoteThe electric field also shifts the molecular electrons away from the hydrogen end of the molecule.
Which should only act to decrease the additional polarization before the oxygen ionizes.  If the cathode is on the left, you have the H side of the molecule there, crowding of electrons around the O side and a high positive field potential to the right of the whole thing.  Electrons feel force to the right.  The ones with the lowest ionization potential will break free first.  I submit those are  still the O electrons.
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The covalent bonds are temporarily weaker than the artificial hydrogen bond.  The nuclei of the oxygen atom and the two hydrogen atoms find no electrons neutralizing the oxygen proton charge.  The two hydrogen atoms therefore move away from the oxygen atom and each other.   The hydrogen atoms (now just protons) are less massive so they move relative to the oxygen protons.   They are now stuck to the cathode like ions in an electrolytic capacitor.  This is what creates the capacitance in the tank circuit that creates the field.  If you short out the capacitor into the inductor the protons no longer stick to the cathode because of the reduced charge on the cathode.  Something else has to happen to favor the production of hydrogen gas though otherwise you end up with a bunch of h30 and oh radicals and water.  Maybe some hydrogen peroxide  and hydrogen if your protons hit the electron end of another stressed out water molecule?

ARMCORTEX

What about wave interference and radiation.

Structure as well.

So much more complez than sparks or MarkE's visualisation based on questionnable science.

Too complex for man... Or is it.

Stipulating like this nulls the Xogen claims, so does the conspiracy really run this deep to have multiple frauds running around with disguised electrolysis.

I will not accept, that water cannot be broken by special electrical signals. I refute this claim based on human creativity.

I am not saying it has been done by Meyers, but Ill be damned if somebody smarter cant solve this.

Btw, I am not very smart, far from engineer and math wiz.

Nobody has touched the limit yet, I dont wanna hear it cant be done.

MarkE

Quote from: ARMCORTEX on August 29, 2014, 06:01:58 PM
What about wave interference and radiation.

Structure as well.

So much more complez than sparks or MarkE's visualisation based on questionnable science.

Too complex for man... Or is it.

Stipulating like this nulls the Xogen claims, so does the conspiracy really run this deep to have multiple frauds running around with disguised electrolysis.

I will not accept, that water cannot be broken by special electrical signals. I refute this claim based on human creativity.

I am not saying it has been done by Meyers, but Ill be damned if somebody smarter cant solve this.

Btw, I am not very smart, far from engineer and math wiz.

Nobody has touched the limit yet, I dont wanna hear it cant be done.
You've got a vision which is fine and well.  The challenge is coming up with evidence that supports it.  Do you have something that you want to try?

ARMCORTEX

You really ask dumb questions, questions wich you know the answer to.

No I dont. But have some unfinished business on my plate.

I will take a stab @ it, one day, not sure when, once Im real rich and a big intricate cell is like a penny to me and time is nothing.

But somebody will, one day, not me.

A brilliant researcher will come, Id say in the next century.