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Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

Started by hartiberlin, July 30, 2014, 08:22:30 AM

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ltseung888

Just added two slides to the "Water as Fuel" presentation.  The presentation was given to academics from Australia and China.  Aroused their interest.
The two new slides are reproduced here:
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

MarkE

If a substance has multiple energy states, those states may be useful towards certain ends such as storing and releasing energy in the transition between the states as is commonly utilized in the enthalpy of fusion and vaporization of water.  Energy is not created or destroyed but stored and released.

Assume for a moment that the form of a snowflake affects to some extent the internal energy of the structure.  This would mean that if we had control over the formation of snowflakes that we could manipulate the storage capacity.  Could that be useful?  It might if snowflakes: 1) are an efficient form of energy storage, and 2) their form affects their capacity, and 3) their form is easy to manipulate.  Since: 1) is false, it doesn't matter that 3) is unlikely, and 2) is unknown.

Did you ever get a reply back from the Indians about their measurements?

sparks

Quote from: ltseung888 on September 04, 2014, 04:59:48 PM
Just added two slides to the "Water as Fuel" presentation.  The presentation was given to academics from Australia and China.  Aroused their interest.
The two new slides are reproduced here:


    The 1s orbital of the hydrogen atom molecularly bound is not the same as when existing in elemental form. Hydrogen is in it's ground state only when it is monatomic.  This is why when molecular hydrogen is split there is a release of energy.  The electrons shared,  transition from a distorted orbital (or excited state)  to ground state.  This creates a photon of energy for each hydrogen atom that transitions. 1H2 -> H+H + E.  If this photon is absorbed by another monatomic hydrogen atom you get molecular hydrogen back.  In order for the transition to occur with release of excess energy the resonance of the hydrogen molecule has to be disrupted.  When you have oxygen nearby and a catalyzing spark the water molecule is formed.  The monatomic hydrogen atoms form covalent bonds with the oxygen atom.  The 1s orbital of the hydrogen bonded to oxygen is closer to ground state or less excited than when bound to another hydrogen atom.   This results with photon emission.  1H2+0->H2O+E
   This is why it takes energy to transition the bound hydrogen atom to form hydrogen gas.  If you could take the hydrogen off the oxygen and somehow keep it in the monatomic hydrogen form then you could get energy out of water. You have to fight electron affinity all the way. 
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Grumage

Dear All.

Far from overunity !! :)

More like kilowatts to microwatts but a good run, non the less !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwjTDXR31KA

Now to perfect the electronics.  ;)

Cheers Grum.

pavqw

I am doing some research in this area and it seems I have found some interesting discoveries.
I've proved for myself that I can achieve better efficiency with short pulses and higher frequencies.
Also that AC voltage does not work nearly at all.
AC that is created with one switching transistor + transformer does not work nearly at all too. After adding diode it is like day and night.
For different transistor there are different frequencies to achieve the best results.
Faster transistors, better results (and higher current).
I am trying to stay around 10W and it seems I can create enough HHO to power tiny engine at real time with 2-plate cell and tap water.
I have not tested it with distilled water yet, but I can't wait to see result.