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Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.

Started by synchro1, August 31, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on September 01, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
I viewed the "Tuning Bifilar Tank" video by the "Old Scientist", and he concluded that the bifilar tank needs capacitive resonance.
I think that you mean reactance.
QuoteThe Reed Switch capacitance of .2 pico farads must have matched the self capacitance of the tiny thread spool air core solenoid bifilar in my prototype. I really need to test the coil, but the math holds up.


Take a good look at this "Resonance of a Bifilar Coil" video if you haven't already seen it: "While in resonance we are able to capture the reactive energy into the inductance of the ferrite, lighting the led without affecting amperage".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o


We can capture reactive energy from the oscillating sine wave in the "Bifilar Coil" to power a "Magnet Spinner" in resonance without affecting amperage too.
When you can add a load without affecting the input, it invariably means that you are shunting power away from another loss mechanism.  The analogy is idling your car in Drive and controlling your speed with the brake.

synchro1


@MarkE,


"I believe you meant reactance"


No, I didn't mean "Capacitive Reactance", I meant what I said when I said resonance LCC. When we wire a capacitor to a series bifilar, we basicly have two capacitors in the Tank. The external capacitance can either be in "Harmonic Resonance" with the self capacitance, or dissonant! 


Here's what "The Old Scientist" had to say about it:


"Bifilar coil has strong harmonics, but it's not influenced in the same way a standsrd or series LC circuit would work by achieving resonance between the capacitor and the self capacitance of the coil".


Try to understand what he's saying: The external capacitor can not be tailored to the biflar tank in the standard way!



What do you make of TK's sine wave spinner that acts as a "Negative Load" in regards to your views on power shunting? Think about this; How much input do you think the spinner would feed back into the tank?

Farmhand

Quote from: synchro1 on September 01, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
I viewed the "Tuning Bifilar Tank" video by the "Old Scientist", and he concluded that the bifilar tank needs capacitive resonance.  The Reed Switch capacitance of .2 pico farads must have matched the self capacitance of the tiny thread spool air core solenoid bifilar in my prototype. I really need to test the coil, but the math holds up.


Take a good look at this "Resonance of a Bifilar Coil" video if you haven't already seen it: "While in resonance we are able to capture the reactive energy into the inductance of the ferrite, lighting the led without affecting amperage".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o


We can capture reactive energy from the oscillating sine wave in the "Bifilar Coil" to power a "Magnet Spinner" in resonance without affecting amperage too. A tiny axle and bearing disk spinner mounted inside the 100 hertz resonating  bifilar coil core, spun up to 6000 R.P.M. let's say by compressed air , should start to spin with the same reactive power that lights the LED.

Synchro, I've shown the effect of no change in input with an added load many times. It is as Mark says, it's a re-routing of
losses to the load. What do you think is happening to the input when there is no load and the input is still the same as with
a load ? I'll tell you it's wasted. So all that wasted power would need to be made up before tipping the scales anyway.

I can show a decrease in input with an added load, I can show no change to the input with an added load and I can show
increased input with an added load, and I can do all those things without a series connected bifilar wound coil in sight.

The effect has nothing to do with bifilar wound then series connected coils. I can prove that and have done already.

..

TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on September 01, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
@MarkE,


"I believe you meant reactance"


No, I didn't mean "Capacitive Reactance", I meant what I said when I said resonance LCC. When we wire a capacitor to a series bifilar, we basicly have two capacitors in the Tank. The external capacitance can either be in "Harmonic Resonance" with the self capacitance, or dissonant! 


Here's what "The Old Scientist" had to say about it:


"Bifilar coil has strong harmonics, but it's not influenced in the same way a standsrd or series LC circuit would work by achieving resonance between the capacitor and the self capacitance of the coil".


Try to understand what he's saying: The external capacitor can not be tailored to the biflar tank in the standard way!



What do you make of TK's sine wave spinner that acts as a "Negative Load" in regards to your views on power shunting? Think about this; How much input do you think the spinner would feed back into the tank?

Look, I do not care any more that you are misrepresenting and misinterpreting Tesla's work as well as common electrical parameters and relationships

BUT STOP MISREPRESENTING MY WORK !!

I have asked you MANY TIMES to stop misrepresenting me and my work but STILL YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT.

If you cannot describe MY WORK ACCURATELY then PLEASE STOP MENTIONING ME AND MY WORK.

I simply do not have the time nor the inclination to monitor your posts and clean up your messes.

STOP MISREPRESENTING MY WORK.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on September 01, 2014, 04:32:55 PM
@MarkE,


"I believe you meant reactance"


No, I didn't mean "Capacitive Reactance", I meant what I said when I said resonance LCC. When we wire a capacitor to a series bifilar, we basicly have two capacitors in the Tank. The external capacitance can either be in "Harmonic Resonance" with the self capacitance, or dissonant! 
Well then you are just mistaken.  There is no such thing as "capacitive resonance".    In the realm of lumped elements, resonance occurs where the capacitive and inductive reactances are equal.
Quote


Here's what "The Old Scientist" had to say about it:


"Bifilar coil has strong harmonics, but it's not influenced in the same way a standsrd or series LC circuit would work by achieving resonance between the capacitor and the self capacitance of the coil".


Try to understand what he's saying: The external capacitor can not be tailored to the biflar tank in the standard way!



What do you make of TK's sine wave spinner that acts as a "Negative Load" in regards to your views on power shunting? Think about this; How much input do you think the spinner would feed back into the tank?
There are only two possibilities in this world:  One has OU or one does not.  Since no one has successfully proven OU, under the assumption that a circuit is UU, when load changes do not reflect to the source, it is because the load simply shunts power that was already being drawn from the source.