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Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.

Started by synchro1, August 31, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on August 21, 2015, 10:11:41 AM
The best approach would be to "Mag Amp" the core with a D.C. primary winding. This is an inefficient method, but allows for a reinforcing pulse at LC resonant frequency. Saturating the core wih D.C. current eliminates any inductance value to the coil. Placing magnets in a coil core alters performance compared to air. Saturating the ferrite creates an electromagnet. Adding inductance by reducing the D.C. current would be matched by increasing the capacitance to slow the rotor R.P.M.

Air has greater inductance value to the coil then a saturated ferrite core, or permanent magnets. We can precisly control rotor speed with this "Mag Amp" core saturator primary wrap, maybe a few hundred turns of 28 gauge. This creates an additional pathway for pulsed D.C. input.

The D.C. pulse should be able to spin the tube rotor at high power alone from the same source battery that charges the tank capacitor. The core saturator would be powered by the same battery. The core should be set back away from the magnet rotor, it doesn't need to extend completely through. The core would retract all the way coupled with reduced capacitance for top sine wave R.P.M. This speed up would be coupled with a reduction in input.
It is an amusing way to waste energy.

synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on August 21, 2015, 11:44:30 AM
It is an amusing way to waste energy.

The nested coils, D.C. primary and tank inductor secondary are parts of two independent circuits. The primary is sufficient to drive the rotor independently. This can save on broken fingers on the run up. The primary can serve as an auxilliary first stage booster coil. The straight D.C. induction suppressor feature is definitely a bust, as you point out, but it allows for very fine precision tuning of the inductor for high Q factor once resonance has been achieved at a specifc R.P.M.. The primary along with the core need to be retracted completely from the secondary core for maximum efficiency under full sine wave drive.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on August 21, 2015, 12:14:05 PM
The nested coils, D.C. primary and tank inductor secondary have two independent circuits. The primary is sufficient to drive the rotor independently. This can save on broken fingers on the run up. The primary can serve as an auxilliary first stage booster coil. The straight D.C. induction suppressor feature is definitely a bust, as you point out, but it allows for very fine precision tuning of the inductor for high Q factor once resonance has been achieved at a specifc R.P.M.. The primary along with the core need to be retracted completely from the secondary core for maximum efficiency under sine wave drive.
Tuning inductance by swinging near saturation aggravates copper loss and throws away energy. 

You should be asking yourself what you hope to gain from making the system resonant.  Tuned networks make sense when there is an existing power source that operates in a narrow frequency band that you want to transmit or block while doing the opposite to energy sources outside the band.  For instance if you have a loosely coupled transformer and you want to pass more power at some frequency than the stray inductance would allow, then you can make a tuned circuit that will cancel the reactance of the stray inductance with a matched capacitive reactance.  It doesn't make free energy.  It does make it possible to pass more useful energy for a given set of circumstances.

synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on August 21, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Tuning inductance by swinging near saturation aggravates copper loss and throws away energy. 

You should be asking yourself what you hope to gain from making the system resonant.  Tuned networks make sense when there is an existing power source that operates in a narrow frequency band that you want to transmit or block while doing the opposite to energy sources outside the band.  For instance if you have a loosely coupled transformer and you want to pass more power at some frequency than the stray inductance would allow, then you can make a tuned circuit that will cancel the reactance of the stray inductance with a matched capacitive reactance.  It doesn't make free energy.  It does make it possible to pass more useful energy for a given set of circumstances.

@MarkE,

I witnessed the "Paradox" of increased acceleration with decreased input before. What happens between the rotor and output coils as the rotor accelerates? Power is generated in inverse proportion to the input reduction. Going from 50 to a 100 hertz by halving inductance and capacitance, doubles the rotor output. This kind of "Synchronous" motor supplies power to help run itself as it speeds up from input reduction. This motor does indeed make it's own free energy!

The rotor needs to spin it's own field strength up in the coils before it can begin to surf  the "Sine Wave". Once the rotor makes the transition to the oscillating current, it's basicly turned into a self runner.














synchro1

Quote from: idegen on August 21, 2015, 03:17:53 PM
Synchro1!
This self-deception (as well).
where the surplus?
where is he from?
:)
Do not you think?
;)

@idegen,

The "Magic of Resonance"! The circuit starts feeding off it's own strength as the powerful magnet rotor accelerates. The magnet rotor's output power is recirculated automatically because of the circuit's simplicity.

Where does the output go if it's not helping accelerate itself? The output equals the input. Where does the power come from to accelerate the rotor if it's not receiving an immediate counter force from it's own flux generation? The rotor's running on an A.C sine wave, and simultaneously generating an A.C. sine wave back into it's own power coils that is additive. Got it?