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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: allcanadian on October 16, 2014, 01:39:43 AM
@MagWe should remember that the concept of flying through the air was also spooky not long ago because most thought it impossible. I would agree this neo magnet compass is something new... to you, however I noticed this effect a very long time ago. Think about it, how small the compass needle is and how small and weak it's field is and how fast it tracks the Earths magnetic field. Now consider your magnet and how powerful it is in relation to a compass needle.
No offense but if were going to move forward people have to stop chasing smoke and mirrors. We must think clearly concerning what we think we see and why it is happening. Now which do you think is more likely... the Earths magnetic field just increased drastically or you just learned something new which should have been obvious?.
AC


"Now which do you think is more likely... the Earths magnetic field just increased drastically or you just learned something new which should have been obvious?."

Exactly. It should have been obvious before now. it should have been obvious to me, to Grum, to Bill, to Tinman. But their reactions, maybe not as strong as mine, were definitely in the 'SURPRISE' zone. And I bet that they and many many others that have played with magnets for years, other than say TK ;D , have had many chances of magnet play/experimentation to notice and recognize this over the years. These are the people I would like to find, ones that can show this from years ago, if there are any others than TK. ;)   

Mags

Magluvin

One other test I did today.  The air core toroid, when discharging the cap, produces a field through the center, as if it were wire wound in a loop instead of a toroid.  Magnet tips over one way only, unless you reverse the polarity of input.  The 1/2in x 1/8 x 1/16 will flip, just once, pulse after that nothing till you flip it over again.  Anywhere in the circle of the coil seems the same.

Odd for a toroid isnt it? ;)

Mags

Newton II

Quote from: tinman on October 16, 2014, 03:12:23 AM
There must be something that act's against the other something :-\. What i mean is-one magnetic field acts against the other,wether it be like poles ,or unlike poles. You just cant have nothing interacting with another nothing ::) So what dose this invisable force consist of?.

Quote:  They are of such low frequency/long wavelength that they cannot be called "light" They are called what then?,and would a solar pannel see this low frequency/long wave length?.Wouldnt that be a hoot-throw some magnets on a solar pannel,and produce power without light :D


I think that question can be put this way : When you bring an iron piece near a magnet, it should simply induce opposite pole in the iron piece and leave it.  But why should magnet attract it with a force?


I have some more crazy questions:

Moving electrons produce magnetic field in a conductor carrying curent.  So, when you bring a repelling pole near it,  the repulsion force should act on electrons producing the magnetic field and electrons should be ejected out of the conductor.   But actually we see that repulsion force acts on mass of conductor as a whole imparting momentum on entire mass of the conductor itself. (which is the principle used in all motors)

When you subject a current carrying conductor to extreme repulsion, conductor itself will bend but electrons will not be ejected out.   Why?

Does it mean that electrons are tightly held to mass of the conductor?   If moving electrons are tightly held to the conductor, how they will move? 

And why they are called free electrons???  (when they cannot jump out of conductor subjected to repulsion?)

Can some 'genius' answer it?


Qwert

Newton II (and others).
I guess this file should shed some light on magnetism:

http://www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/534/#.VEEP0clxg0U

Electromagnets for attracting non-ferrous metals

gyulasun

Quote from: Qwert on October 17, 2014, 08:56:48 AM
Newton II (and others).
I guess this file should shed some light on magnetism:

http://www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/534/#.VEEP0clxg0U

Electromagnets for attracting non-ferrous metals

Hi Qwert,

Although there is not much info given on another book, perhaps you could try to search this book hinted at in this post, first by member Mk1 and then Magluvin:

http://www.overunity.com/11350/confirming-the-delayed-lenz-effect/msg357978/#msg357978 

When I had read Magluvin's description on that book, I though of this book you just uploaded but Magluvin wrote back then that it was not that book:

http://www.overunity.com/11350/confirming-the-delayed-lenz-effect/msg358021/#msg358021 

When you have some time, please try to look for the other book. 

Thanks, Gyula