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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
I cooked it for about 10 minutes total. I had filled it to the brim with liquid, so that was my mistake. Next time I will just wet the coffee filter and leave it at that. I will add some hydrate #5 in my next mix, as in...
Here's the video on the complete build... actually.. I have another video I am working on to show the hookup to the circuit I sent Fausto with 2 polarized caps... I'll be interested to see how long this cell powers it.
http://youtu.be/ZnLn2yR7DQU

plengo

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 02:00:47 PM
Here's the video on the complete build... actually.. I have another video I am working on to show the hookup to the circuit I sent Fausto with 2 polarized caps... I'll be interested to see how long this cell powers it.
http://youtu.be/ZnLn2yR7DQU


I am laughing my butt off. The mess is beautiful.  ;D ;D


Here is my recommendation. At about 3:22 of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fK2tLQdXp0&list=UUnksPMgpb_B4I2KvNHZb5xw) you will notice how tick is the paper around the Magensium in ratio to the copper. It is tight. Yours is too loose, too much liquid. Also notice the "4 cell unit" how the Mg is solidly positioned inside the copper pipe.


The pictures show a Magnesium rod with its paper wet with F149. Then I roll the rod over the paper and becomes a hot dog kind of pipe.


In the case of a Mg ribbon I would think a 24" long paper wrapped around the Mg for that pipe will work. What you need is enough paper to make the Mg ribbon tight inside the pipe. The paper being very wet with the formula but not swimming in the formula.


First picture is AFTER I cooked and I am opening to inspect the rod. The second is BEFORE I cook it. In my case with a 1/4 inch rod I am using around 24" paper for a 1/2 inch diameter copper pipe.

Another important point is that AFTER cooking you should have pretty much useless power from the cell. Then slowly she will grow exponentially.


Then she will die and the "dormant" phase will be the next (12 months???). I am trying now to figure out how to short that "dormant" period. I don't know yet how to do that, unfortunately. We will have to find out to have what I have (posted on the graphs).

Fausto.

tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 02, 2014, 02:28:14 PM
I am laughing my butt off. The mess is beautiful.  ;D ;D
notice ..the Magensium in ratio to the copper. It is tight. Yours is too loose, too much liquid.
... the "dormant" phase will be the next 12 months - Fausto.
Glad you liked that video! It was a lot of fun exercising the Fausto Sizzle!

The purpose of putting the mag inside the copper tube is to contain the mess. I am creating useful nightlights for this month and
will continue along those lines until my home is filled with these little batteries and JT's... I don't mind varying the formula and builds
as long as they look ok and aren't messy. In the next video, you will see my straw breather...

I get the 1/2" copper pipe for $1.10 per foot, but making a tighter fit with 3/8" copper tubing (not pipe) will cost me $1.80 per foot,
so that's ain't gonna happen.  Also, I am thinking of just filling the pipe with paper to soak up more liquid. Although the mag strips
may curve a bit inside, overall I don't think that will matter much.

I could shorten the builds to accommodate a straighter set of mag strips (like 2" instead of 3") or lock the mag strips into place using
something like circular wood or pvc cuts or just caulk... Anyway, that's the path I am on...

re: 12 month wait... if I can't plug it in right away and start using it, that is not going to work for me. My goal is:

1. less than $1 per JT and crystal battery
2. at least a week between maintenance cycles, and
3. a life span of at least 6 months with the possibility of rebuilding them for less than $0.20

I am currently building these for less than $1 each and getting 6+ months use, so the low maintenance is the only goal left for me.

PS - the last 3 builds (256-358) started at over 200 mA - they pegged my meter... so we are onto something good!

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
My goal is:

1. less than $1 per JT and crystal battery
2. at least a week between maintenance cycles, and
3. a life span of at least 6 months with the possibility of rebuilding them for less than $0.20

I am currently building these for less than $1 each and getting 6+ months use, so the low maintenance is the only goal left for me.

PS - the last 3 builds (256-358) started at over 200 mA - they pegged my meter... so we are onto something good!
Here's part 2 for the other video
http://youtu.be/lWCjz6NVJV0

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 03:17:35 PM
Here's part 2 for the other video
http://youtu.be/lWCjz6NVJV0
So... I have seen this a lot with these last 3 cells. The voltage goes down fairly quick under load. After 2.5 hours, it went from 1,300 mV down to 940 mV.... I reconnected the meter to test draw (load) and the JT circuit was pulling 1.42 mV, which is fairly high for this circuit... Then I disconnected the battery completely and shorted the battery to find over 130 mA... after several minutes, it was up and down, but settled at around 110 mA, which is really high for a battery like this.... so... it has low internal resistance (bad), but high amperage on short (excellent)... I am not sure what to make of this... The real test is time... the good thing about the JT circuits I build is that they work well down to about 800 mV, but this one will work well down to less than 600 mV... we'll see over the long term....