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Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 09, 2014, 11:19:18 AM
I have to use a calculator to translate uS into kHz.
I have built a number of online calculators for frequency, reactance, etc. and am thinking of building a logging system
for crystal cells that creates graphs like I have been posting automatically. Question...

It would take me about 6 hours to clean up the calculators for general use and another 20-25 hours to build a logging
system as described, which would require log in to a web app, but  NO software installation.

Do you think anyone would want to use a system like this?

Personally, I am getting to the point where I need to probably do this or screw a paper clip board log above each shelf
holding the crystal battery and JT circuit. Paper/wood clip boards would take almost no time to make and mount and
would probably be easier to use, but the application might be fun if we had 10+ others using the application.

The last thing I developed like this was for my workouts, but I did a market test for this app and nobody was interested...
I don't even use it anymore for logging my workouts... I just kind of know what's up and think week to week now... it's
all in my head at this point... The basic data is still available here if you want to take a look.

http://lifesgift.org/lg/ExerciseMuscles.cfm

This app has about 12 years of research and about 400 hours of development into the app. I still use this not-necessary-
to-log-in piece once in a while just to check things, like I replaced my plank exercise with another to affect just one
muscle group...

Anyway.... just curious.

tgraca

Here are the results of my first set of tests... I am compiling another video now on my second set of tests for the new
simplified JT design with no caps or resistors....
http://youtu.be/sZy_SwDk514

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 09, 2014, 06:15:15 PM
Here are the results of my first set of tests... I am compiling another video now on my second set of tests for the new
simplified JT design with no caps or resistors....
http://youtu.be/sZy_SwDk514
Here are a few more tests without load so you can see how much voltage these JT circuits can generate without load...
http://youtu.be/RWvBIT7IbRw

plengo

Quote from: plengo on December 09, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
Status.


Cell 149 (the one in the graphs) is finally showing signs of decay of power. Since November 16 to today she lost about .001 volt under load with a few drops of Epson solution only. I have not added water since November 10.


The metals inside look just like before and no visible deterioration is present but I have not dissected the cell.


I assume the loss in power having to do with water evaporation since this cell is not sealed. The major reason I started to seal those cells in epoxy resin.


Under short she was showing around 2 mA. Under load on a Green 10 mm LED is showing 2.58v.


I think this cell is the most successful cell of mine to date. A flat graph with only a very small loss of power. I will let her run for longer and later add 1 drop of water to each of its 3 unit cells and graph it again. Very boring work.


Fausto.


I forgot to mention that this cell also goes up and down in its voltage on the graph, for example right now, she is back to when I started which is 2.81volts.


I also made a load test of a short using the meter which changes the cell substantially until it stabilizes again to the new load and back.


Fausto.

plengo

A few years back I noticed a pattern with those cells that may help you to know if you are on the right track or not.


I was convinced that the power coming out from those cells was not only galvanic.


To demonstrate that here it goes a simple test: Create 3 cells in the exact same way. Let them run for 3 different lengths of times while adding water at different rates/time. One let it run until it simply die without adding water/Epson. The second one let it run but keep adding water/Epson 2/3 more times in relation to the others. The third one let keep adding water/Epson 1/3 more times in relation to others. Do this until second and third cell FINALLY DIE.

Now that second and third cells are dead, start adding water/Epson to only the first one and observe and measure its output power in relation to time.

Example: Cell 1 no water/Epson until she dies. Cell 2 add water/Epson twice every week until she dies for good (it could take a month here). Cell 3 add water/Epson 3 times every week until she dies for good (it could take another month here).

Now that all are dead and Cell 2 and 3 will no longer give useful power even adding water/Epson, take Cell 1 add water/Epson until it dies again and repeat the process being adding water only AFTER she dies or becomes "dormant", UNTIL she finally dies like the rest and responds no more with more water EVER. Open the Cells and examine their corrosion level.

Now, you should see a clear pattern where the one that is watered most frequently is the first to die in total corrosion before the rest but it will not be the one giving the most power ration in relation to length of life. The one with the least frequently water added will be living MUCH LONGER useful life and power ration in relation to life length.


In other words, the one that is "fed" water/Epson only after "dormancy" state will be the winner.
In other words again, the one that is frequently "fed" the least with water until the "dormancy" state comes will be the winner.
In other words again, the one that is "fed" in accordance with ITS "dormancy life CYCLE" will be the winner.
In other words again, the one that is "fed" only when she NEEDS will win.
In other words again, the one that is in sync with its "nature" of growth will win. (This is super important).
In other words again, the one that lives in respect with the "seasons of the year/life" will be the winner.
In other words again, the one that is NOT FORCED will win.


Bedini said in one of his videos that "you cannot accelerate nature. You have to let the battery do its thing at her time".


To see this one will need to measure (empirical data) AND KNOW what is CORROSION indeed with ALSO EMPIRICAL DATA. In another thread I asked people to do a "BASELINE" but I was criticized by the argument that "we all know what corrosion is". Do they really? ???


Teo should be able to easily see when corrosion hits the road and KILLS the cell, so he should be able to determined a BASELINE to compare the cells to and SEE what I am talking about. This should be enough to "itch" your mind and corrode you from inside until you find the reason (pun intended).


Now the reasoning, or should I wait until you guys have demonstrated the empirical data  and convinced that indeed this pattern exists? Well, i guess I will wait first.


Here is the MOST IMPORTANT thing from now on, IF your 3 cells in the end gives the same power output ration in relation to time and frequency of adding water, YOU ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK WITH YOUR FORMULA AND BUILD PROCESS AND GEOMETRY.


The only problem with this experiment is that it takes TIME, patience and endurance. For those that want a quick build and results be ready for big failure unless your objectives are to have a galvanic cell. The benefit of me here is that I ALREADY passed that phase and spent the time doing that so YOU can save yourselves the trouble.


BUT, you will need to do this experiment at least ONCE to KNOW that. Only once, since you already did the galvanic cells and know more or less what to expect to call a cell "dead". In other words, that even adding water that cell will no longer work or it will be totally corroded. The rest I did and take for granted my words and save yourself years of testing. You will eventually even see cells that will be totally dead and still have plenty of electrodes left and make you go like "whattttt? ??? ?!!!!".


Now that you KNOW the life cycle of these cells, you will know if the "formula" is right IF the cells responds to that PATTERN. I say "formula" in quotes because this is only ONE of the 3 necessary things to get it right: The formula, the build process and the geometry. Any of those changed will dramatically change the results.


You may also be asking: Fausto what is the zapping for ?
Well the zapping is another Nature's trick in accelerating the process but in Nature's ways. Have you heard Bob Babcok saying that "Nature has its safe guards but it also can be 'tricked'" ?


Fausto.