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Ufo propu engine, closed loop

Started by ingyenenergiagep, November 07, 2014, 01:34:16 PM

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ltseung888

We shall do another solenoid with 300 windings today.  The 540 turn solenoid took Bill and I over 2 hours to wind by hand.  It appears to be an overkill if we just want to demonstrate overunity.

Hopefully, by next week, before Christmas, we shall have two complete sets of equipment.  One will stay with me and another one can be loaned out for short periods - one week at a time.  We shall encourage the interested to have their own setup.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all.

The success of this proof-of-concept experiment vindicated all the researchers of free energy.  The Newman machine, the 225 HP Pulse Motor, the QMOGENs, the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier, etc. are not hoaxes.  They are some form of lead-out energy machines.  The researchers are pioneers.  Their efforts are well appreciated.

Divine Wine is for all to share...  Love Thy Enemies...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Mr. Bill Fung and TS Lau finished the 300 turn Solenoid yesterday. 

Now we have 4 tubes for demonstration:
1.   The 130 turn solenoid that does not produce overunity.  Too few windings.
2.   The over 200 turn solenoid by me that showed overunity with 3 magnets.
3.   The 540 turn solenoid by Bill and myself that easily showed overunity.  The magnets jumped out of the tube at 24V.
4.   The 300 turn solenoid by Bill and Lau that may become the work horse to show overunity.  It took less effort to wind.
5.   One 400 winding solenoid is planned for the next few days.  We shall have at least 4 solenoids capable of demonstrating overunity.

We have enough wires and tubes to do more.  We can always buy more or direct researchers in Hong Kong where to buy the materials.  Bill will be able to advise them on the winding techniques.  (A good winding is not that easy.)

The Output Potential Energy measurement side is very clear.  We choose the highest jump as most jumps have slight friction between the jumping magnets and the transparent tube.  We also need to adjust the exact position for the magnet to be placed inside the solenoid for the best effect.  The addition of one coin (1.5mm thick) to adjust the position could mean a jumping height difference of 10 cm or more.  The mass of the jumping magnets+PVC tube are measured with an electronic balance accurate to 1gm.

The actual positions of the jump can be captured on video and the errors are small.  We found that the push ON/OFF switch could produce a higher jump than the simple flick position ON/OFF switch.

I shall discuss the Input Electrical Energy side in a separate post.

Divine Wine is for all to share...  Love They Enemies...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

On the Input Electrical Energy side, we rely much on the waveforms such as those in reply 287 and 295.  Those wave forms showed what happened at the leading edge of the jump.  There will be a sudden high rise in voltage more than the stated supplied voltage from the DC power supply.  It is immediately followed by a back emf as expected.  That back emf is due to the inductance of the coil.  This back emf effectively sends current back to the power supply.  It reduced the energy input.

One of the more controversial arguments is what to use as the period for measurement. (Energy = power x time or = V*I *t)   There are a number of possibilities.

1.  The full duration of the press down period.  This can vary greatly with different experimenters and also with the same experimenter.  The time for the jumping magnets to reach highest position is usually around 30ms as can been seen from the full pulse on the DSO.  Some slower reaction experiments showed over 50ms.  This is definitely not the right time period to choose.

2.  The leading edge dip time from the DSO as in reply 287.  This technique ignores the full pulse time.  It does not depend of the reaction of the experimenters.  The time period is reduced to less than 5ms.

3.  I used the time for the jumping magnets to depart by 10cm.  The10cm is from observation that the steady repulsion of the magnet and solenoid with constant DC power supply becomes less significant after 10cm.  The time period is further reduced to 3ms approximately. This period can be calculated accurately from the time difference between the jumping height and (the jumping height - 10cm).  To be more exact, the differences in the free fall time is used.

The measurement of current can be via:
1.  Use the simple equation V=IR.  The resistance R is measured with a standard ohm meter.  The crocodile clips added 1-2 ohms to the measurement.  The actual wire resistance of the solenoid is also 1-2 ohms.  We may use a different connection method than crocodile ciips later.  However, even with a reduction of half the measured resistance, we still achieve overunity.

2.  Use a one ohm resistor in series with the solenoid.  The voltage drop across this one ohm resistor will give the current.  If this curve is on the first probe and the solenoid voltage probe is on the second probe of the DSO, the waveform comparison can be seen.  If we assume the voltage and current displayed correspond, then we can do the point-by-point multiplication.  The CSV files allow us to use EXCEL to do the analysis.  Some good DSOs can do that directly.  We can select different time intervals to do the calculation.

3.  Some results show that the average voltage during the leading edge of 5ms or less is negative.  This implies current flowing back toward the source.  The energy flowing from the source during such period is negative or the circuit is giving the DC power supply energy!  After the leading edge dip, the voltage becomes positive close to the supplied voltage.

I shall have more discussions with the academics on the validity of the above assumptions.  Even if the above assumptions are approximate, the COP > 1 results are still valid.  Most COP results with the above assumptions are 5 and upwards.

UFOs are flying.  Many are made in USA and in China.  Can they still keep the Top Secret?

Divine Wine is for all to share...  Love Thy Enemies...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Waveforms from the Bill and Lau 300 turn coil.  At 17.5V
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Quote from: ltseung888 on December 19, 2015, 07:05:17 PM

2.  Use a one ohm resistor in series with the solenoid.  The voltage drop across this one ohm resistor will give the current.  If this curve is on the first probe and the solenoid voltage probe is on the second probe of the DSO, the waveform comparison can be seen.  If we assume the voltage and current displayed correspond, then we can do the point-by-point multiplication.  The CSV files allow us to use EXCEL to do the analysis.  Some good DSOs can do that directly.  We can select different time intervals to do the calculation.

UFOs are flying.  Many are made in USA and in China.  Can they still keep the Top Secret?

Divine Wine is for all to share...  Love Thy Enemies...

The above recommendation will be taken.  Then we do not need to worry about the resistance introduced by the crocodile clips.  No need to do soldering or something similar.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.