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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Dave45 on December 24, 2014, 11:37:12 AM
This is the point of this build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSXbG2BmUw Thanks Jimboot.
When a magnet induces current in a coil the coils magnetic field opposes the magnet.
When iron is between the two at some point you get attraction which doesnt happen in a conventional generator.
So unless you have built it and know it doesnt work your talken trash.
Simple......................

No I'm not talking trash.  It's 100% conventional, you just want to believe that it's not conventional.  One more time, it's a failure of the imagination.  Ultimately, you will get Lenz drag when you move the iron or the ferrite.

They are welcome to build and do their testing.  I have no intention of stopping anybody.  However, if you just sat down and studied the basic fundamentals before you built it you would be that much wiser.

Kator01

Luc,

if you cut out the red marked section of the core you might as well take away the full half of the lamination as the remaining outer parts can not carry much flux ( flux path is broken ) ..this is only true for the shown orientation of lamination.

The ciritcal point I see is the very small overlapping area of the U-core cross-section. Most of this area is exposed to the airgap.

What would I do ?

not cutting of the core and bigger cross-section of the U-core

Kator01

lumen

Kator01:
I don't believe Luc ment to cut the center of the core out, I think he meant to just take the corners off in that area.

tinman

Quote from: Dave45 on December 24, 2014, 11:37:12 AM
This is the point of this build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSXbG2BmUw Thanks Jimboot.
When a magnet induces current in a coil the coils magnetic field opposes the magnet.
When iron is between the two at some point you get attraction which doesnt happen in a conventional generator.
So unless you have built it and know it doesnt work your talken trash.
Simple......................
The iron carries the PM's magnetic field,and thus becomes a temorary magnet it self,and the lenz force act's apon this temporary magnet the same way as it would the PM it self. At the point where you get this attraction of the iron to the magnet,is the point where no current is being produced by the generating coil,and this attraction force is equal when the iron is trying to leave the PM as well,and the net result is zero. You then add eddy current losses induced into the iron,and you now have a loss that will be in the form of heat in the iron.

I have an !off the shelf! flux gate generator that is very similar to the one this thread is all about,and it is one of the worst performers i have ever come across as far as generators go-although it looks a treat ::) These designs have been around for a very long time(the one i have was built back in the 50's i believe),and you wont see them in any new tech-->there is a reason for this,and that reason is because of there poor efficiency.

NoBull

Quote from: MileHigh on December 24, 2014, 11:16:56 AM
Generate electricity by changing the flux through a coil:
1.  Move the magnet past the coil.
2.  Move the coil past the magnet.
3.  Move the ferrite core between the magnet and the coil.
4.  Use a fancy "flux redirector system" based on a moving laminated transformer core.
5.  Heat up a ferromagnetic core inside a coil above its Curie point
6.  Chill a ferromagnetic core inside a coil below its Curie point
7.  Squeeze a ferromagnetic core inside a coil (including sound waves)
8.  Modulate the permeability of a ferromagnetic core inside a coil with a strong electric field.
9.  Change the shape of the coil