Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

Pssst.  SeaMonkey isn't it time for an large, inaccurate and obnoxious graphic or a bunch of links that you've barely read which rehash a bunch of already debunked nonsense?

Dr. Andrew Moulden:  Every Vaccine Produces Microvascular Damage

Every Vaccine Produces Harm

Awesome thanks for obeying my commands.

[joel321]

Sark,

Meeeehh!!!

You and your smiley faces and one liners.

You don't show anything worth a dollar.

I seriously believe you have some type of mental disorder.

You keep chopping up my sentences like a demented person. I'm wondering that your mind must be all tangled up like noodles.

The only thing you offer is just pure entertainment like me going to the movies to watch some sponge bob square pants.

Hmmm lets see what his one liners are.

You seemed to say this earlier and I said you were wrong.  Are you saying that you were stupid to say that?  Come on Joel.  You can say it!

I said a lot of things and you have said nothing. The typical person that demands something when they don't give anything. You have nothing intelligent coming from you at all. Zero!

For what set of outcomes?  Until you say what you're measuring you really are saying nothing...which is sort of like saying it's a day that ends in "y".

Hey there hitler.

Can you tell me exactly what is being tested for here?

can you?

What tests would you order up?

You are the "expert" you tell me!

How is it that you don't realize how absolutely stupid your suggestions are?

How is it that you don't see how stupid your suggestions are? Lets all hail hitler over people.

The only thing you've "told" me is that you agree with an article which claims a death due to vaccination.  The article was written by someone with no expertise in the field and could easily be just as accurate if you replaced his head with a block of wood.  The claim is against what the ME and all available evidence says. So where are all the other ones?  Are they as stupid as this one?

Well how can you explain to an ADD, OCD, mental person anything when they forget everything that has been said already! Nothing! It comes to a point that you just become a pet! And that is what you are right about now, a pet. Chopping up my paragraphs confusing yourself and others. Sort of like a mental virus yourself.

You have zeor zero zero absolute knowledge about medicine. And if you do, you only have it in your own little circle of stupid online friends lol. I mean in quotes "friends".

and since vaccines are preventive measures you wholeheartedly support universal worldwide mandatory vaccination.

LOL this dumb-ass does not understand how he is being manipulated by medicine. All the mercury and chemicals have gone to his head. Lol. My pet! Now why don't you take this medicine here 30 pills a day so you can stay 'normal'. Lol, he a pill poping, medicine injecting sarkeizen. How many pills do you take a day for your mental instability?

Vaccines lower the likelihood of getting sick for a particular serotype.

And the side effects = your fried brain seeing purple elephants flying.

In contrast your claim that you can grasp anything I can *is* relevant.  Your attempts to weasel out of playing "go" with me still make you look kind of stupid

Please sir tell me where you work because I have a feeling that you are living in lalaland. Where exactly is it that you work?

I seriously believe that you have been taking too many pills for your own mental stability. You just get people confused sir. You can't stay on topic AT ALL! The smiley face after every stupid ass one lines is kind of an evidence to your instability.



Makes me think that your teacher made you feel smart by giving you a happy smiley face in school to make you feel 'special'...

[sarkeizen]

I seriously believe you have some type of mental disorder.

...and I keep telling you that saying things like that is disrespectful to people with actual disorders both in the implication that you can somehow diagnose it over the internet and your trivialization of people who often have a hard time holding down a job or caring for themselves.  All in the name of making you feel better about yourself.

You keep chopping up my sentences like a demented person.

Mostly paragraphs into sentences and it's to show which individual thought I'm responding to.  It's was a common thing to do in usenet.  If you had a more cogent expression of whatever passes for thinking it probably wouldn't be necessary.

I said a lot of things

...and I'm pointing out that you have contradicted yourself and agreed with me.  Are you saying that you can't even remember what your point was?

and you have said nothing.

If you've been listening carefully you will notice I've taught you things like...
- understanding that a vaccine protects against a serotype not a strain.
- understanding that replication is the primary cause of mutation in viruses
- understanding that protective gear, even when used by highly trained personnel under threat of death are still insufficient to halt disease progression
- understanding that vaccines are preventative medicine.  As they have the strongest effect prior to getting ill.
- understanding that you primarily try to find things that agree with you rather than contradict you.  As you cling to one aspect of a report of a girls death as told by a news source for the stupid, written by someone who is a moron and which contradicts the ME report.
- understanding why male HPV vaccination is an open question
- understanding why female HPV vaccination is both a good health option and economically better than the alternative
- understanding the difference between analgesia and anaesthesia
- understanding where vaccines are made and that for most North American's none of them are in China.
- understanding the purpose and place of animal testing, probability and epidemiology in determining risk
- understanding that for every argument of "what about side effect 100 years from now" you can make the same argument for being unvaccinated
- understanding why asking someone "do you want" is treating them different than farm animals.
- Medical workers generally get their vaccinations at the beginning of flu season
- you need to define outcomes to make some of your ideas make sense

and that's just off the top of my head concerning my posts directly to you.

The typical person that demands something when they don't give anything.

...and yet there's this big list up there of stuff somehow.

Hey there hitler.

You said that your big solution to everything is that people don't need to be vaccinated except in the minority of cases.  Right?  However the real question is about what you are trying to optimize for.  It's interesting that you don't have an answer here. 

can you? You are the "expert" you tell me!

This is in response to your "let's just test everyone and that will stop adverse reactions to vaccines" however you seem to have no idea what you would be testing for.  So your "big idea" is again kind of worthless.  If *I* was proposing testing for people it would be on the basis of actual data.  So I would have some idea what kind of labs you would need.

How is it that you don't see how stupid your suggestions are? Lets all hail hitler over people.

I haven't made any suggestions to change the way things are done.  I have tried to help someone as stupid ias yourself understand why things are done the way they are.

Well how can you explain to an ADD, OCD, mental person anything when they forget everything

Dude if you did cite some large number of cases of proven vaccine injury then all you have to do is cite them again.  It seems like you didn't.  All we've talked about is your worship of the moron at naturalnews.

It comes to a point that you just become a pet! And that is what you are right about now, a pet.

Yeah and ^^*that's*^^ not a coping mechanism. LOL.

You have zeor zero zero absolute knowledge about medicine.

The only thing I've asserted is I understand a few topics better than you and all you can do is whine like you do here.

LOL this dumb-ass does not understand how he is being manipulated by medicine. All the mercury and chemicals have gone to his head.

I don't usually eat Tuna.  So there's probably very little mercury in me relative to most people.  Also you didn't read the study I posted about children and blood mercury levels did you?

And the side effects = your fried brain

Side effects of vaccination are pretty well known, adverse effects are exceptionally rare.  If you have real information showing a significant side effect then please share it but you won't because you have no such information.

I seriously believe that you have been taking too many pills for your own mental stability.

Currently I take exactly zero prescription medications. I seriously believe that you don't understand what is meant in English when we say "I seriously believe".

You can't stay on topic AT ALL!

Each of my responses is a direct and clear reply to one of your thoughts (loosely speaking).  If we are going "off topic" it's because you are.  I am but a mirror.

So getting back to some of your funnier comments...you demand I explain how a bunch of things work.  You can not prove these things are related to the discussion of vaccination.
On the other hand you constantly try to weasel out of playing a couple of games of go with me as a test of how well you can master a subject better than I can.  Which would seem rather directly related.

How do you rationalize that I wonder?

[kEhYo77]

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