Food for Thought: Our World

[Raycathode]

smoky2
It was in fact a denial of the facts and science which led to the collapse of every society. Logically, if they believed in the facts and not religion and politics then the society wouldn't have collapsed. You can always tell who is peddling BS... there the one's with no tangible proof to substantiate their claims.

Here is my line of reason...
-Logically if they didn't believe the BS of religion and politics they would have believed in the facts.
-The facts said there actions would eventually destroy them and there society.
-Thus if they believed in the facts they would not have destroyed themselves
-Conclusion... don't be stupid, trust in facts because they are real and not silly unfounded beliefs.

So if I believed one unicorn could save me if I jumped off a cliff then should I believe that many unicorns would somehow make me more safe if I jumped off the same cliff?. Personally, and this is just me, I was under the impression that as a grown up I was supposed to stop believing in fairy tales.

I like to think of it this way... if I was a bank manager and you came into my branch peddling this BS as fact expecting a loan of real value I would tell security to escort you out of my building. This is the best analogy I could use and fairy tales are by no means a tangible good or service. 

I know it seems normal to you but no it's complete BS, sorry about your luck.

My aren't you full of it Define religion ant that a man-made story? Now what about the FACTS in the old 'Coptic Hebrew bible' how do you explain all the finds like all the Egyptian chariots strewn deep in the sea of reads and Nohers ark found in Turkey and TutMoses trail around the desert for 40 odd years? the history is there for all to see! Oh and don't bother quoting King James bible that is full of BS and riled with over 250 errors
And then there is the Alexandra ancient library now with reports the Romans took it all and it's reported to be in the Vatican and that just the indexing was burnt along with the building. But we don't know how much of that is true, Yet.

With all, due respects It would be better if you stuck to the facts in zero-point rather than stuff you have not researched.

Raymondo

[onepower]

Raycathode

With all, due respects It would be better if you stuck to the facts in zero-point rather than stuff you have not researched.

I can't say that any research is required to understand that when people start doing stupid things because they have ignored the facts then bad things tend to happen.

For example, if your well was going dry you could pray to an imaginary deity hoping it gets better or find out what the actual problem is. Unfortunately most in the past chose to pray as society degenerated, as food and water became scarce and sickness spread over the land causing death. The people who managed to survive were the ones who recognized the insanity and moved as far away from it as possible.

It would be better if you applied some common sense based on tangible facts rather than unproven hearsay. The fact is you can't eat or drink politics or religion nor does it offer any shelter.

[DavidWolff]

Raycathode
I can't say that any research is required to understand that when people start doing stupid things because they have ignored the facts then bad things tend to happen.

For example, if your well was going dry you could pray to an imaginary deity hoping it gets better or find out what the actual problem is. Unfortunately most in the past chose to pray as society degenerated, as food and water became scarce and sickness spread over the land causing death. The people who managed to survive were the ones who recognized the insanity and moved as far away from it as possible.

It would be better if you applied some common sense based on tangible facts rather than unproven hearsay. The fact is you can't eat or drink politics or religion nor does it offer any shelter.

@ one power,
What's your problem, Ray said nothing about your an imaginary deity and you haven't checked on your facts your self you're quoting above, You exaggerate and exploit misleading information in order to make others look small and beneath you, it strikes me your a nasty person as far as I can see.

[sm0ky2]

I am not condoning or condemning any religion.
What I am saying is that it serves a necessary function
in human society that we have not yet found a way to replace.
Only a small % of us can comprehend the "facts"
Or even what we think are "facts".


The rest need what religions do for them:
Even when that religion is to not have a religion.
Because even then , as soon as it breaks down and
people start making religious/superstitious crap
there goes the structure their social group was formed upon.


In today's world with multiple religions , and non-religions in the same group
and the humorous newly created religions.
the collapse of any one religion is not as important to the group as a whole.
The fairy tales become less relevant to the society.
Which is the only real protection from that type of problem.
Leaving us only Famine, War, and Natural disasters to worry about.


People still need their religions.
Like the Thermodynamicsists.
When we show them that their theory is only half of the story
they get upset and think the whole of their knowledge has been disrupted.
This is an unscientific response, and can only be explained as a religious belief.
In the beginning there was a "closed system".
Is that any more real than a god(s)?


Our society is based on the religion of economics. We believe that money is the
answer to making everything happen. In god we trust.
It is one answer. But there are many
problems with this method.
And it can never be sustainable.


Inflation leads to poverty and deprivation. Division of class.
Division of goods to the upper class and crap to the poor.


The more expensive things get the poorer we become.
Raising wages raises prices and never solves the problem.


Deflation creates wealth across the board. For everyone.
Lower prices means more expendable income, more freedom.


Even here we have religions....
We believe that mankind can change

[onepower]

Smoky2

I am not condoning or condemning any religion.
What I am saying is that it serves a necessary function
in human society that we have not yet found a way to replace.

I would have to agree and it will probably take hundreds of years to evolve beyond our present belief systems. We used to have thousands of gods and now only a few so were making progress. My feeling is that if there were "gods" they may have been advanced beings or alien. Which creates problems when both the atheists and the theists seem to show a great deal of intolerance towards my beliefs. Many speak of tolerance when it serves there interests but seldom practice it from what I have seen. I simply say openly what many others say behind closed doors.

I mean no disrespect or offense and call it as I see it based on my objective reality and research. If there is one thing I think we can all agree on is that our beliefs have always been changing in the past and will continue to change in the future. Therefore almost nothing we believe today may be true one or two thousand years from now.

Which begs the question, if everything must change with time and becomes less or untrue in the future then how can it be completely true today?. Do you see the paradox?, nothing we believe today is true... we just don't know it yet.