Delayed Lenz or not?... post your explaination!

[synchro1]

@Milehigh,

"This is what I posted to Wings, "I have already discussed that clip and there is nothing there.  If you disagree feel free to make your points."

Why would that make your hair stand up"?

Because this is outright horseshit!

[synchro1]

The JLN video Milehigh says is nothing is everything! Once again; Magnetizem travels from the rotor magnet through the soft iron core to the shorted output coil. Then in complete compliance with Lenz, Faraday and with no departure from any and all of the related laws, the magnetizem induces an electrical current in the coil windings along with an opposing magnetic field that is "Reflected" back through the core to the rotor magnet.

The reflected magnetizem can either be in advance of TDC or 'DELAYED' and lagging. It's imposible for the reflected field to arrive exactly at TDC. The reflected field can only propel or slow the rotor. This timing is a result of the distance the shorted coil is positioned from the magnet rotor and nothing else. The "Delay" refers to the extra time it takes for magnetizem to travel through the elongated core. Everything else remains unchanged. That's all there is to DLE. Any attempt to include extraneous factors amounts to superstition!

"Delayed Lenz Effect" can be defind as "Magnetic phase lag in the core material". That's it, period!

[MileHigh]

@Milehigh,

"This is what I posted to Wings, "I have already discussed that clip and there is nothing there.  If you disagree feel free to make your points."

Why would that make your hair stand up"?

Because this is outright horseshit!

Synchro1:

I am going to reproduce my entire posting about the JLN clip below.  You tell all of us why it is outright horseshit.

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Luc:

I looked at the JLN clip and I am not impressed.  You have probably heard that water is an excellent analogy for electricity.  The water pressure is the voltage.  The water flow is the current.  A water resistor is just a long thin hose, there is friction between the moving water and the walls of the hose.  A water capacitor is just a big tank of water.  A water coil is just a big coil of hose.

Please see the attached graphic of a simple water wheel.  That's a perfect analogy to a simple pulse motor.  The water flows out, hits the fins of the wheel, the wheel spins at a certain RPM and all the water ends up on the ground.  Just like a pulse motor, there is no useful output from the water wheel.  Both the pulse motor and the water wheel only have one output, heat.

Now, if you make slight adjustments to the water valve the speed of the wheel will change.  If you make slight changes to the angles of the fins on the water wheel the speed of the wheel will change.

Compare that to JLN's experiment.  He makes some adjustments to his setup, and the current consumption will undergo a slight change, or the RPM of the rotor will undergo a slight change.

In both cases, the changes will make slight changes to the power draw, it might go up a bit, it might go down a bit.  Another way to state that is that the impedance of the water wheel will change slightly, and that will affect the power draw.  Likewise, the impedance of the pulse motor will change slightly, and that will affect the power draw.

So what's so remarkable about that?  You know when people make a circuit to power a CFL or a LED lamp, sometimes they put a big current limiting resistor at the battery positive terminal.  If you change the value of that current limiting resistor slightly, then the brightness of your light will change slightly.  Would you say that changing the value of the current limiting resistor is an "advantage?"  Well that essentially is all that you are seeing in that clip.  He is changing the electrical impedance of the pulse motor.  Sometimes the impedance goes up, sometimes it goes down.  BFD.

In this context the shorting or unshorting of the coil is essentially irrelevant.  It just changes the motor impedance and slightly affects how much waste heat is produced by the motor.

That's what's really happening in that clip.  It's like turning the volume up or down on your stereo and claiming an "advantage."

Quoting JLN:

Harnessing the Delayed Lenz Effect with an experimental Test Bench

He is not harnessing anything.  He is just changing the impedance of the motor.

Here an interesting experiment about the Delayed Lenz Effect which shows that the normal Lenz effect can be reversed with a special setup.

That's a retarded statement.  Nothing is being reversed, he is just making impedance changes to the setup.

I have said several times before that I am not impressed with JLN, and that clip only serves to reinforce my impression of him.  He is looking at that setup and does not seem to be aware that it has no significance.

MileHigh

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Go ahead Synchro1, we are all waiting to see what you have to say.  - MileHigh

[MileHigh]

The JLN video Milehigh says is nothing is everything! Once again; Magnetizem travels from the rotor magnet through the soft iron core to the shorted output coil. Then in complete compliance with Lenz, Faraday and with no departure from any and all of the related laws, the magnetizem induces an electrical current in the coil windings along with an opposing magnetic field that is "Reflected" back through the core to the rotor magnet.

The reflected magnetizem can either be in advance of TDC or 'DELAYED' and lagging. It's imposible for the reflected field to arrive exactly at TDC. The reflected field can only propel or slow the rotor. This timing is a result of the distance the shorted coil is positioned from the magnet rotor and nothing else. The "Delay" refers to the extra time it takes for magnetizem to travel through the elongated core. Everything else remains unchanged. That's all there is to DLE. Any attempt to include extraneous factors amounts to superstition!

Please go ahead and produce some nice detailed and annotated timing diagrams that show exactly what you are talking about.  Post them here and we will have a look.  Show all the waveforms relative to TDC, the propulsion, the whole nine yards.  You feel passionately about this so let's see if you are going to advance your case with good quality timing diagrams.  Where the "delayed Lenz effect" is on the timing diagrams has to be clearly indicated and explained so the average person will understand.   Are you up to the challenge?

[synchro1]

Synchro1:

I am going to reproduce my entire posting about the JLN clip below.  You tell all of us why it is outright horseshit.

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Luc:

I looked at the JLN clip and I am not impressed.  You have probably heard that water is an excellent analogy for electricity.  The water pressure is the voltage.  The water flow is the current.  A water resistor is just a long thin hose, there is friction between the moving water and the walls of the hose.  A water capacitor is just a big tank of water.  A water coil is just a big coil of hose.

Please see the attached graphic of a simple water wheel.  That's a perfect analogy to a simple pulse motor.  The water flows out, hits the fins of the wheel, the wheel spins at a certain RPM and all the water ends up on the ground.  Just like a pulse motor, there is no useful output from the water wheel.  Both the pulse motor and the water wheel only have one output, heat.

Now, if you make slight adjustments to the water valve the speed of the wheel will change.  If you make slight changes to the angles of the fins on the water wheel the speed of the wheel will change.

Compare that to JLN's experiment.  He makes some adjustments to his setup, and the current consumption will undergo a slight change, or the RPM of the rotor will undergo a slight change.

In both cases, the changes will make slight changes to the power draw, it might go up a bit, it might go down a bit.  Another way to state that is that the impedance of the water wheel will change slightly, and that will affect the power draw.  Likewise, the impedance of the pulse motor will change slightly, and that will affect the power draw.

So what's so remarkable about that?  You know when people make a circuit to power a CFL or a LED lamp, sometimes they put a big current limiting resistor at the battery positive terminal.  If you change the value of that current limiting resistor slightly, then the brightness of your light will change slightly.  Would you say that changing the value of the current limiting resistor is an "advantage?"  Well that essentially is all that you are seeing in that clip.  He is changing the electrical impedance of the pulse motor.  Sometimes the impedance goes up, sometimes it goes down.  BFD.

In this context the shorting or unshorting of the coil is essentially irrelevant.  It just changes the motor impedance and slightly affects how much waste heat is produced by the motor.

That's what's really happening in that clip.  It's like turning the volume up or down on your stereo and claiming an "advantage."

Quoting JLN:

He is not harnessing anything.  He is just changing the impedance of the motor.

That's a retarded statement.  Nothing is being reversed, he is just making impedance changes to the setup.

I have said several times before that I am not impressed with JLN, and that clip only serves to reinforce my impression of him.  He is looking at that setup and does not seem to be aware that it has no significance.

MileHigh

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Go ahead Synchro1, we are all waiting to see what you have to say.  - MileHigh

This is complete horsehit! You're using a jet of wáter that you compare to voltage you mention current and coil impedence when DLE has nothing at all to do with electriity and is strictly a result of 'MAGNETIZEM'. Both you and MarkE are DUMBER THEN PIGSHIT