Lenz free generator

[EMJunkie]

OK, getting back to the mag base switcher, ready?  it is happening over on another forum

Hi guys, I will be back in about three or four hours to answer any questions and reply to comments, But in the mean time I wanted to mention something. The switcher is a product of 5 people's work, Myself, Mark, Nicolas, Lawrence and Bruno. It's being referred to as the LaFonte Switcher but it is really the LaFonte Group Switcher.[/size]I don't want all the credit to get attached to me. We work as a team and everyone has stuck with me through all the designs that did not work and I am very lucky to have such a great team. We don't know how many machines we built that might be overunity because we ran out of money before R&D could be completed. Mark has a storage trailer full of our prototypes. Maybe someday we will have the funds to complete the R&D on all of them. There are close to 2000 designs on paper. Maybe with the success of the switcher we can build them all.Back in several hours,Butch[quote/]

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Hi Ron - Videos/Channel removed?

This the same by the looks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw0FA6JJ0BQ

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[Magluvin]

Ok. With that in mind......

Wouldnt that be the same difference as inputting a constant sine wave vs a simple boost circuit?

Like if in the boost circuit we pulse the primary in a polarity that the single rectifier off the secondary does not conduct until the primary current is cut and the collapse induces the secondary and in the direction of the rectifier to the output. Is that not Lenz less?

Mags

To take it a step further...

Let say we have a 1 to 1 ratio transformer. If we apply current to the primary with the secondary open, the inductance will be high, so the input will be low. No Lenz.

If we put a load on the secondary, as it gets induced by the primary, the input to the primary increases. We have Lenz.

So there is a clear reason why the input is lower without the load on the secondary.

Now say we get the transformer to be one that is 180deg out of phase on the secondary. Why would we think that the sec output could be more than the input, because the input is not being affected by the current of the secondary?  If the primary input is lesser because the sec does not affect it, why would we think that the secondary would have more out than what went in? In comparison, running the transformer at its normal AC sine ratings, the input while the sec is loaded is more, but so is the sec output, as compared to being 180deg out of phase pri AND sec. Like the boost converter I described earlier, the input is greater than the output, even if the input is first stored in the transformer, and then dumped to the output. So why might we expect the sec of a 180deg capable transformer to be anything greater than the input??

Im not seeing it.

Mags

[EMJunkie]

Hi Mags:

To take it a step further...

Let say we have a 1 to 1 ratio transformer. If we apply current to the primary with the secondary open, the inductance will be high, so the input will be low. No Lenz.

If we put a load on the secondary, as it gets induced by the primary, the input to the primary increases. We have Lenz.

So there is a clear reason why the input is lower without the load on the secondary.

To here, I completely agree. You are right as far as I understand your post.

Now say we get the transformer to be one that is 180deg out of phase on the secondary.

Electromagnetic Induction from Primary to Secondary is always ±180 Degrees out of Phase - We dont need to do anything to make this happen.

Why would we think that the sec output could be more than the input, because the input is not being affected by the current of the secondary? 

Yes, this is right, at this point there is 1:1, less losses, transformation of Electric Energy. You get out, what you put In, Less Losses.

If the primary input is lesser because the sec does not affect it, why would we think that the secondary would have more out than what went in?

With a Single Primary Coil and a Single Secondary Coil, there can be no gain!

In comparison, running the transformer at its normal AC sine ratings, the input while the sec is loaded is more, but so is the sec output, as compared to being 180deg out of phase pri AND sec.

Again, Primary and Secondary are always ±180 Degrees out of Phase. This is Electromagnetic Induction and Lenz's Law is the Direction of the Induced EMF.

Like the boost converter I described earlier, the input is greater than the output, even if the input is first stored in the transformer, and then dumped to the output.

Between a Primary Coil and a Secondary Coil, Electromagnetic Induction occurs once!

At this point we give up and cop a loss, mostly small, %10 or there about's, 1% on the really big Sub Station Transformers.

If we look at a Generator, there is Induction occurring many times all at once all adding to the Total output. All in Phase and all Inducing a Current in the same direction. See: Electrical Energy 101 - Faradays Law of Induction - Part 1

You can see, there is a U Shape winding, three windings in total, in a Step Winding configuration. It is amazing to see, its very true, but any Conductor/Coil that sees a Change in Magnetic Flux is going to have an EMF in it.

Why limit ourselves to once like in a Transformer?

So why might we expect the sec of a 180deg capable transformer to be anything greater than the input??

Im not seeing it.

Mags

All things take time. There is a Curve and this curve is dependent on the determination and understandings acquired.

I really believe, strongly, that the first place to start when learning about Electrical Energy, is how we already do it!!! There is no point re-inventing the wheel when there is a wheel already invented!!! Take your Motor/Generator, how does the EMF in the little Toroid get there?


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[Magluvin]

Then what is it in phase shift we are looking for? 90deg?   ?  And what for?

Like Tesla needed it to operate a motor he designed. I guess so that the motor could run on single phase where available.

Mags

[EMJunkie]

Then what is it in phase shift we are looking for? 90deg?   ?  And what for?

Like Tesla needed it to operate a motor he designed. I guess so that the motor could run on single phase where available.

Mags

Mags - I was always told when doing my Apprenticeship: "You must ask the right Question"

That is the right Question!

   Primary: Reactive Input - Voltage to Current as close to or more than 90 Degrees Phase Shift.

   Secondary: 180 Degrees to the Input, this will be Real Power, Voltage to Current is Zero Degrees Phase Shift as long as the Load is Resistive.

   Tertiary: In Phase, Zero Degrees to the Input, or very close to Zero. This will also be Real Power! This drives the Input, it is our Counter Balance we talked about above. This Coil makes the Input Reactive, the more Load on this Coil and thus the Secondary, the more Reactive the Input becomes.

Of course these are within some tolerance! Some Angles of Degrees may vary some, 5 or 10 degrees and all Systems are a bit different. So when I say: Zero, or ±180 Degrees, this is just a "Close To" Figure.

All this, is: Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction Newton's Laws of Motion and we have added the Counter-Reaction part.

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