Dynamic spiral motor animation.

[Dingus Mungus]

Just an idea I had...

[Dingus Mungus]

So the question is:

If the two rotor magnets are forced clockwise (like in a spiral motor)
and the stator magnets are forced outward adding friction (load)
to the outer wheel but not counterclockwise force, would this device
(if properly balanced and tested) be a possible PMM?

Would the friction/load be greater then the force created by the stator
magnet trying to find the cog point???

I have about 20 animations of magnetic motor concepts like this...
I'm just putting them out there for others to comment on...

Heres a spiral motor (for those who dont know what I mean by spiral motor)
with a electromagnet to overcome the cog point. Also based on a principle
I've observed which is that two large cylinder magnets can easiley face each
other in oppisition if there is a smaller cylinder magnet placed veticaly
between them in attraction, so I assume in this animation that watts required
to accomplish this configuration is less then the watts required to negate a
magnets field.

[Gregory]

Hello Dingus,

The first one is Very good! You're a thought reader, don't you?

I also had this idea some months before. Through my short "research" about all magnet motors, I've got a conclusion, that only designs with all of the magnets in some kind of motion will possibly work.
Your animation looks very promising. It's a must try. Unfortunately I don't have the tools and equipments to make something like this...

If the force produced by the magnets is enough to move the weight of all the pieces together and all the mechanisms, than probably it will work. But needed to look carefully for the best configuration, with different viewpoints included, like mass, force, number of magnets, lenght to the cog point, how the rotor and the stator pieces move in time and in connection to each other, (maybe alteration needed) etc,
Have to choose very carefully. For first, perhaps it's better to try with less magnets, and perform some pre-experiments first to see what happens.

After all, the most important question remains the same: Is it possible to develop enough force to move the whole thing?

When the answer will turn to yes, you have got it.

Best Regards,
Gregory

[hartiberlin]

Hi,
the second animation:
spiralmotordemo.gif

is exactly the way the Paul Sprain motor works.

Search for
Sprain
in the search box and you will find it.
This method works !

[morpheous1777]

sprain motor
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor

just looking at mim-lrg.gif and i was just wondering couldn't you use the same kick out ring (or slightly modified version) on the torbay device and get rid of the kick up and just kick it out, is it using the same principle as torbay ??

Ive got torbay on my brain (just read that 100+ topic about it) i could be wrong, but its just a thought