New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago

[MileHigh]

I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.

What you, or any claimant could do, is present your data in as credible and honest and complete a manner as possible, still understanding the limitations of YouTube and online forums.   At least make an honest attempt to do that.  If the information looks credible then you can take more steps to present your data in more detail afterwards.

But it is never done, not because it is too hard to do, but because if you (generic 'you') actually did that it would make it infinitely more difficult to fake a clip.  Alternatively, you might actually surprise yourself when you start looking seriously at your own measurement data.

[MarkE]

I never said Bedini was a charlatan. When I was involved with Bedini I did not find him personally to be that way towards anyone.  I may not think of him as scientific and or having a good judgment of friends but He didn't seem to be pushing anything on anyone and was more passive. As for other people, some people come and go in this world. I have had some charlatans want to do business but have soon figured out their agendas and have pushed them away or exposed them if that was needed.
I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.

You don't, but I do without reservation.  He has sold false claims for years.  I get a chuckle everytime I think about his magnetic CD/DVD "purifiers" and the speaker wire gadget he sold in the 1980s that without any reference signal input or power source was supposed to "remove the distortion" introduced by speaker wires.  His free energy machines don't produce free energy.  It is all guff.  So, you were perhaps referring to people you think are even more egregious than Bedini as those charlatans you refer to having recently worked with.  It's hard to do worse than Bedini.  Perhaps you were hooked up with the likes of Mark Goldes or Dennis Lee.

[MarkE]

  Has anyone on here ever seen a "Free Energy Machine", if the answer is "No"
it brings the title of this thread into question?
  That's my real problem with the whole affair.
                           John.

Earlier in the thread Rick declared that if you attend one of his presentations that he will demonstrate a real working free energy machine to you.  He also declared that he would not be able to prove that it really delivers free energy in the time frame of the demonstration.  He has rejected offers to establish a test that would prove overunity or not from his devices within two hours.  Given that his claims are extraordinary and that he is not offering to show proof, and rejects offers to establish proof, I conclude that his claims are false.  Caveat emptor.

[MarkE]

What you, or any claimant could do, is present your data in as credible and honest and complete a manner as possible, still understanding the limitations of YouTube and online forums.   At least make an honest attempt to do that.  If the information looks credible then you can take more steps to present your data in more detail afterwards.

But it is never done, not because it is too hard to do, but because if you (generic 'you') actually did that it would make it infinitely more difficult to fake a clip.  Alternatively, you might actually surprise yourself when you start looking seriously at your own measurement data.

If any free energy claimant were to actually show proof of their claims, the world would be their oyster.  Instead of competing with the local traveling carnival for admission tickets, they would be competing with the likes of Larry Ellison for islands of their own.

[orbut 3000]

I'm not sure if I should buy a ticket or not. The ticket for the conference is only $100/$200 so I would expect there will be lots of opportunities to buy stuff at the conference?
Are guests allowed to take pictures/videos during the conference?