New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago

[picowatt]

Lives will or will not be saved whether a FE devise will be made available or not. More lives will be affected in relation to character than technology. Don't twist what I say. Promoting means to make people better persons is more important than promoting technology that makes their lives easier. And we are talking about something that is just one of many different alternative technologies. Solar is helping the world but is far from making the average person independent.

Wow,

I just read a bit of this thread.  Pretty disgusting stuff.

If someone does indeed have an electrically propelled boat that has operated for two years without an external source of power, that "might" be a great thing if it was operated for a meaningful amount of time with a given battery capacity.  A few photos to allow one to gauge the size of the boat and some usage data such as the number of miles traveled or hours operated at such and such speed this many times a month using this number of batteries of this capacity, etc., would go a long way toward drawing people to an event promoted to learn how that was accomplished.  Surely this info would not give anything away for free, but certainly would do much to draw a crowd.  Of course, any such data published and later determined to be inaccurate could put the claimant into possible legal jeopardy.

With regard to all the insults and childish name calling , I am appalled.  Jon and Rick seem to have a well practiced dialogue or methodology intended to insult and demean anyone that would question their "technology".  After reading this thread, I can only assume that anyone present at this conference that poses questions similar to those raised in this thread will be treated similarly with insults and demeaning name calling so as to quiet any dissension.  Whether or not these two believe they have some "free energy" technology, their use of insults and invoking the troll response seem more so in line with many previous false claimants.

However, most of all, after reading so many replies by Jon and Rick filled with insults and childish name calling, I find it laughable that Rick can actually post a reply wherein he references "character".  He would be well advised to consider his own. 

PW

[memoryman]

well said, picowatt.
Mark E.: also well said; just to expand on that:
in life it is not what happens that matters as much as your reaction to what happens.

[MarkE]

A number of the responses have been so askew that they might fail a Turing test.  The bottom line is that it is more of the same old, same old:  A big claim is offered with no collateral.  Caveat emptor.

[rickfriedrich]

I never said Bedini was a charlatan. When I was involved with Bedini I did not find him personally to be that way towards anyone.  I may not think of him as scientific and or having a good judgment of friends but He didn't seem to be pushing anything on anyone and was more passive. As for other people, some people come and go in this world. I have had some charlatans want to do business but have soon figured out their agendas and have pushed them away or exposed them if that was needed.
I don't have disinterest but uninterest in doing things like that online where you can't prove anything anyway.

Rick insists that he is genuine and very much unlike charlatans such as he has worked with recently.  However, from his back sliding, defensive posture, and disinterest in proving his claims one way or another, I am unable to distinguish his behavior from the likes of Bedini.

[minnie]

  Has anyone on here ever seen a "Free Energy Machine", if the answer is "No"
it brings the title of this thread into question?
  That's my real problem with the whole affair.
                           John.