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[Dave Wing]

That is not a scientific test.

If you don't want to do the SDT test that I suggested, then send me two identical untreated off the shelf discs and a Clarifier, and I'll treat one and then compare the PCM data between the two with minimal delay time so the treatment doesn't fade, then I'll send the bundle back to you.

Of course if I find no difference in the objective data, you will tell me I'm not holding my mouth right, or the effect doesn't work below the 30th parallel of latitude, or some other cop-out excuse.

I said scientific and hearing tests, you do the honest tests and you tell me what you honestly find. So purchase a unit and do your tests. If you are as honest as some say you are then I will trust your evaluation.

-Dave Wing

[TinselKoala]

I said scientific and hearing tests, you do the honest tests and you tell me what you honestly find. So purchase a unit and do your tests. If you are as honest as some say you are then I will trust your evaluation.

-Dave Wing

Don't be silly. If you want me to evaluate your claims, YOU send me a Clarifier and discs of your choosing, I will test them and send them back to you. In other words, I am calling your bluff. You are the claimant and all responsibility, including financial, to provide evidence for your claim is your burden and yours alone.

OHH, the Clarifier might be damaged in shipping so that it doesn't work when it gets to me? But only if you are paying, not if I am paying? Come on, you can think of any number of reasons why I might get a negative result.

You are probably not familiar with the great physicist, experimentalist and teacher Richard Feynman. He famously said, "The easiest person to fool is yourself". This is why a subjective listening evaluation is not scientifically valid and it has a well defined technical term attached: Observer (or experimenter) Bias. See the WIKI entry.

The Theory of Signal Detection allows a properly designed experiment to avoid and even quantify the Observer Bias effect.

[Dave Wing]

Don't be silly. If you want me to evaluate your claims, YOU send me a Clarifier and discs of your choosing, I will test them and send them back to you. In other words, I am calling your bluff. You are the claimant and all responsibility, including financial, to provide evidence for your claim is your burden and yours alone.

OHH, the Clarifier might be damaged in shipping so that it doesn't work when it gets to me? But only if you are paying, not if I am paying? Come on, you can think of any number of reasons why I might get a negative result.

You are probably not familiar with the great physicist, experimentalist and teacher Richard Feynman. He famously said, "The easiest person to fool is yourself". This is why a subjective listening evaluation is not scientifically valid and it has a well defined technical term attached: Observer (or experimenter) Bias. See the WIKI entry.

The Theory of Signal Detection allows a properly designed experiment to avoid and even quantify the Observer Bias effect.

There is no bluff...

I will send you one of my used units, but you must also perform the actual listening tests, I would like to know what audio system you can test the Clarifier on. I would like you to do the blind tests also. And you pay for shipping back to me USPS Priority Mail International. Can we agree on this?

-Dave Wing

[MarkE]

I said scientific and hearing tests, you do the honest tests and you tell me what you honestly find. So purchase a unit and do your tests. If you are as honest as some say you are then I will trust your evaluation.

-Dave Wing

If the PCM data streams are identical, as they must be then the device makes no difference, which it doesn't.  The whole idea is beyond preposterous and has no basis in theory or experimental evidence.  One might as well sell car wash suds guaranteed to improve smoother engine idle and faster acceleration.

[Dave Wing]

If the PCM data streams are identical, as they must be then the device makes no difference, which it doesn't.  The whole idea is beyond preposterous and has no basis in theory or experimental evidence.  One might as well sell car wash suds guaranteed to improve smoother engine idle and faster acceleration.

Think what you will... As you never have used the device.

-Dave Wing