Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[MarkE]

@MarkE Hollande Duell - When you're smart enough to realise and see it, you will see I have already shown OU, its right in front of you and you cant see it because you're not smart enough to see it 

A small clip of it is here: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg45771#msg45771

Declarations do not make facts.  I have taken TK's oscilloscope waveforms and performed the piecewise integration to find that his approximate power output through the NE-2 lamps is ~21% of the power input that he reports. http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg437476/#msg437476  You are free to attempt to rebuke by showing your own work.

I know where Energy comes from.

Any excess energy is coming from your imagination, because no evidence of excess output versus input energy is apparent.  But, you are again free to show with actual experimental evidence that you think you find a different result.

I know How it is "Generated"

Again you have yet to establish that there is an "it".  Since the evidence so far indicates that there is not an overunity "it", your claims to knowing how something comes to be that isn't there suggests fantastical delusions.

I know I have shared enough for others to pick the ball up.

What you claim you know and what you have actually demonstrated with reproducible evidence are miles apart.

MarkE Holland Duell, you may be a smart bloke, but I must say, you're not smart  enough to really know what's going on with these Technologies, I hope you can soon understand what is really going on.

You are all bluster.  You have not established that there are any "technologies".  You have completely failed to distinguish the behavior of your various circuits from what ordinary circuit analysis predicts.

Regards

   Chris

Got any evidence?  Or are you only going to treat us to bluster?

[TinselKoala]

@EMJ:

The post you linked quotes me:

TK said: "a fair amount of power into a NE-2 load string"

But it conveniently omits the rest of what I said:

The ratio of input power (total, including the power to the 555 oscillator) to output power in the HV branch is about 6:1 or so.

Now, where do you get "OU" from that?

"Ballpark",  very roughly  one-sixth of the input power is being dissipated in the neons, and they do get hot. Almost _none_ is being dissipated in the load resistor, whether the neons are in the circuit or the HV branch is left open. The load resistor doesn't warm perceptibly even after long periods of running. The transistor gets hot when it is fully driven, at current levels which your FG probably can't supply. In fact that is another source of error in your setup, whatever you are using to drive the transistor: It must supply significant power to the circuit to make the transistor work, and you have never accounted for this supply.

You say you know where the energy comes from....  so do I. It comes from the big honking power supply that's under my bench, and before that from the local grid, which gets it from a mix of sources: about 1/3 from coal-fired generators, 1/3 from a nuclear power plant, 1/6 from natural gas-fired generators and 1/6 from "renewables" (solar PV).

Not only that, but Synchro doesn't even think my version of your circuit works. I really don't think you can have it both ways.

So I say it's not OU, Synchro who sees OU in everything he looks at on YouTube says it's "a piece of crap"..... so why do you think it's OU?

I think I know why... it's because you can't provide results of your own that are any better than these, isn't it.

[MarkE]

@EMJ:

The post you linked quotes me:


But it conveniently omits the rest of what I said:

Now, where do you get "OU" from that?

"Ballpark",  very roughly  one-sixth of the input power is being dissipated in the neons, and they do get hot. Almost _none_ is being dissipated in the load resistor, whether the neons are in the circuit or the HV branch is left open. The load resistor doesn't warm perceptibly even after long periods of running. The transistor gets hot when it is fully driven, at current levels which your FG probably can't supply. In fact that is another source of error in your setup, whatever you are using to drive the transistor: It must supply significant power to the circuit to make the transistor work, and you have never accounted for this supply.

You say you know where the energy comes from....  so do I. It comes from the big honking power supply that's under my bench, and before that from the local grid, which gets it from a mix of sources: about 1/3 from coal-fired generators, 1/3 from a nuclear power plant, 1/6 from natural gas-fired generators and 1/6 from "renewables" (solar PV).

Not only that, but Synchro doesn't even think my version of your circuit works. I really don't think you can have it both ways.

So I say it's not OU, Synchro who sees OU in everything he looks at on YouTube says it's "a piece of crap"..... so why do you think it's OU?

I think I know why... it's because you can't provide results of your own that are any better than these, isn't it.

TK can you comment on how you came to estimate 6:1?  It seems about right, because the piecewise integration came up with a bit under 21% which isn't very different from 16.7%.

[TinselKoala]

TK can you comment on how you came to estimate 6:1?  It seems about right, because the piecewise integration came up with a bit under 21% which isn't very different from 16.7%.

I was just going from memory when I made the post, using the PWI you did without having the actual numbers in front of me.  I recalled that you found the result something a little over one Watt and that my input power was something around 7 Watts. 1/5, 1/6, it's still not chopped liver. The major uncertainties are in the input current level, so I'm hesitant to put 2 significant figures to the report. I'm happy to call it 5:1 input:output if you like, that would be closer to the actual values you used in the PWI.

Thanks for doing that integration by the way, I was too burned out last night to do it myself.

[MileHigh]

but I must say, you're not smart  enough to really know what's going on with these Technologies, I hope you can soon understand what is really going on.

Is this a stand-up comedy routine?