Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

Hey Jeg,

I'd like to ask you if by adding more turns at the partner coils side, the output voltage goes higher? Do you think it is a good practice to insulate every layer of the partner coils by some tape so to avoid inter-turn arcing?

Yes this can be helpful sometimes! It does depend on how many turns you already have though! What's the wire gauge you currently have on your Partnered Output Coils?

No, not needed to insulate every layer, not for what we are doing! If this is a problem then too many turns or bad quality wire may be the issue. Try to aim for Voltage output of about 2 times the input, just a little higher than input to start with then later on we can improve!

And something else for everyone. Is it the right time to consider again this circuit shown at the video? Alexander meissner...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDUpYnA2AY0

Yes Good Video!

EDIT: Jeg, use a Power Amplifier: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180W-180W-2CH-12V-Small-Stereo-High-Power-Amplifier-for-CD-MP3-Car-Audio-Home-/400586923881?pt=AU_Electronics_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item5d44d75f69

Drive it with a Function Generator, cheap Square/Sine Generator

The Circuit in the video is ok, but it will limit your overall ability to test and learn your device.

My rule is, don't rule anything out!

Please, I really cant stress enough, start simple! Keep it simple and learn as much as you can first!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[Jeg]

Thanks EM..
It is a new concept for me and i have many questions to be answered through experimentation. One question for example is if this effect can be reversed. I mean if by the same rule we can cancel E fields and turn our Voltage output to a current source again driving inductive loads..

[EMJunkie]

Hi Jeg

It is a new concept for me and i have many questions to be answered through experimentation. One question for example is if this effect can be reversed.

Yes Understand, takes a bit of understanding!

1: Each Coil has its own Magnetic Field
2: When Magnetic Cancels, the Electric can add (Not always!)
3: When Electric Cancels, Magnetic can add (Not always!)

Experiment is as you say the key! That's why I have tried to come at this the way I have. Start at the Start and we will get to the finish!

I guess you could view this as reversed...

I mean if by the same rule we can cancel EM fields and turn our Voltage output to a current source again driving inductive loads..

Current and Voltage are the Electro Motive Force, normally EMF.

Both follow with the EMF, but might be out of phase depending on the load. 

Please see last post I edited it last minute.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[minnie]

  I asked my dog if I should attempt a build, she said-
Can you do accurate pin-pout measurements?
Can you show an actual change in one or more parameters?
  (Remember that silly thing with Mondrasek, Mathematical analysis of an ideal  ZED
   it was all over on page two but festered on for another 180 pages)
  Can you see free energy anywhere in nature, the Sun is losing 4 million metic tons
  a second to radiation let alone a great deal more to solar wind.
  Could it be dark energy? Answer that one and you'll please a whole bunch of
   scientists.
    Then she went back to sleep by the fire!
               John.

[MileHigh]

This clip was mentioned on another thread and it's worthwhile to post it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI

Many of the issues mentioned in this clip apply to what is going on in this thread also.  Probably the biggest issue related to this specific thread is that in this thread there is a claim of more power out than power in coupled with an active discouragement of actually making power out and power in measurements.  That is simply self-defeating logic that makes no sense.

Moving on, just another comment about what is transpiring in this thread.  The claim is based on driving the transformer with an AC waveform and making measurements on the AC power in and the AC power out.  However, you have several people showing Joule Thief/blocking oscillator type designs.  The two circuits are completely different, so what's the point?  In a blocking oscillator type of design, you drive the primary with some kind of pulse waveform.  When the drive signal is ON, you are energizing the primary inductance of the transformer so that it stores energy.  When the drive signal is OFF, then the the primary drive circuitry is completely decoupled from the transformer.  When that happens, you have all of this energy in the transformer that has to go somewhere, and the only place for it to go is via the secondary.  Under these conditions, you can put essentially ANY load resistor on the secondary and the secondary will discharge through that load.  In other words, with a blocking oscillator type design, the concept of a 3:1 turns ratio does not even apply any more.  The output is of a variable voltage that depends on the load resistance exclusively, and has nothing to do with the turns ration.  Also, the output is essentially decoupled from the input so it is perfectly normal and expected that there will be no change in the input power when you chance the load on the output.

So you guys have to decide, is this thread just another free-for-all that goes nowhere, or do you actually try to replicate the circuit and make measurements on it?

All of these postings were you say things like, "I added a load and the input power went down so we are going in the right direction" are claims that we have all been reading on this forum for years and years by now for all sorts of different setups and circuits.  This is nothing new.  If you don't even attempt to figure out why that is happening then it is meaningless.  There is always a logical reason why.   One thing for certain is that "going in the right direction" does not mean that you are going to magically pass the COP 1 barrier and make it past that point.

Try to replicate faithfully and making power in and power out measurements all the time is what you really should be doing if you are serious.

MileHigh