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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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TinselKoala

Sure. Solas are great but kind of expensive and I don't have one to hand any more. Used to, when I was in Canada, but not now.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sola%20isolation%20transformer&clk_rvr_id=773187970953&adpos=1s7&MT_ID=70&crlp=22617129323_2416792&device=c&geo_id=10232&keyword=sola+isolation+transformer&crdt=0

But believe it or not, some of these things actually do _not_ isolate the Ground pin -- it goes straight through from the isolated side to the mains side, to assure equipment grounding!

MileHigh

Okay some measurement advice for Conrad and others to hopefully make life easier.  Please people like TK, MarkE, Picowatt, correct me or tweak me if I am wrong.   Conrad talked about losing half of his output on the secondary due to a probe ground connection so I am a little unsure with what follows.

Okay, the "trick" is that even though Chris's design is basically based on an isolation transformer, in many cases you can "anchor" some point on the isolated secondary to a ground reference without adversely affecting the circuit at all.  As long a there is no current flow in the "anchoring connection" you are fine.   All that the anchoring point does is "hold" the secondary that formerly was floating to a reference potential.  You do this to make your life easy.

If you look at the attached diagram I am assuming that the scope has a banana plug connection for the signal ground.  By "signal ground" I mean it is the same as the BNC ground for the probes.

So if you look at the diagram you connect the banana plug ground on the scope to the bottom of H1.   You can see how there is an "anchoring connection" between the bottom of H1 and the top of H2.   That makes it super easy to measure the voltage across R2 for the "regular transformer" and the "bucking transformer" (dotted lines.)

So, you make the banana plug connection, and then you can use both probes to look anywhere in the circuit, and in theory you are always measuring the voltages relative to the bottom of H1, which is ground.   In almost all cases, you can completely forget about using the ground wires and associated alligator clips on your probes.  You simply remove the probe ground wires.

If your scope does not have the banana jack for the ground, then you connect one or both of your ground clips for your signal probes to the bottom of H1 and you get the same results.

Either way, doing it like this means you don't have to think about moving the ground clips of your scope around every time you want to make a measurement.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 01, 2015, 06:19:27 AM
Sure. Solas are great but kind of expensive and I don't have one to hand any more. Used to, when I was in Canada, but not now.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sola%20isolation%20transformer&clk_rvr_id=773187970953&adpos=1s7&MT_ID=70&crlp=22617129323_2416792&device=c&geo_id=10232&keyword=sola+isolation+transformer&crdt=0

But believe it or not, some of these things actually do _not_ isolate the Ground pin -- it goes straight through from the isolated side to the mains side, to assure equipment grounding!

Those all look huge and are very expensive.

Plan B:  Go to an electronics surplus place and buy pairs of very cheap matched transformers.   Connect them [front-back-back-front] and you have a perfectly good isolation transformer.  I bet you could make one for less than twenty bucks.

TinselKoala

I just took another look at OUR. What a hoot!

Now EMJ has missed the FACT that Conrad's test did in fact use the _correct_ bucking arrangement of both secondaries for the test he reported.

Quote@Chet,

Yes I saw that.

Its not going to work with the Circuit he shows:

(image of the single secondary only test)

No connection to the second Partnered Output Coil. H3 is not connected!

Also his phase angle does not seem right, 17 degrees is not enough, he's not at resonance.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!
I re-attach the _correct_  actual schematic below that Conrad used for the test in question, since apparently :some:  people aren't paying attention like they should be.

EMJ was in full agreement, had no objections when he thought that an "ou" result was posted. Now that the error has been found and corrected.... "the schematic is wrong, the phase angle isn't enough, not at resonance"..... what a hoot!

MileHigh

The word "resonance" has crept in.  That's new?