Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

@TinselKoala,

Nowhere in any of your "Toroid Joule Thief" schematics do I see 4 mosfets like Woopyjumps. Connected (Emitter to Base); with one resistor between the pairs, would make for a very powerful, high switching speed, current amplifier. Perhaps this "Gang of Mosfets" has somthing to do with Woopyjump's apparent COP>1= 58.3?

I'm assuming Woppyjump's using two paired "Darlington Configurations" like the one pictured below:

I think that the more mosfets you connect in that manner the _slower_ your switching will be. It takes time for each mosfet's gate capacitance to fill to the point where the drain-source channel begins to conduct. The idea that such an arrangement might be capable of terahertz switching is pretty laughable, sorry. You need highly specialized devices and construction techniques to get even into the GHz range, much less thousands of GHz. Nobody is going to do it on a benchtop with clipleads and a big handwound toroid, sorry.

And I think that woopy, or you yourself, would have no trouble at all making a device self-loop if it _truly_ had a COP of 58.3. (Are you sure it's not 58.4? Or 58.2?)

[a.king21]

I think that the more mosfets you connect in that manner the _slower_ your switching will be. It takes time for each mosfet's gate capacitance to fill to the point where the drain-source channel begins to conduct. The idea that such an arrangement might be capable of terahertz switching is pretty laughable, sorry. You need highly specialized devices and construction techniques to get even into the GHz range, much less thousands of GHz. Nobody is going to do it on a benchtop with clipleads and a big handwound toroid, sorry.

And I think that woopy, or you yourself, would have no trouble at all making a device self-loop if it _truly_ had a COP of 58.3. (Are you sure it's not 58.4? Or 58.2?)

What makes you think that Woopy would want to make it self loop?

[TinselKoala]

I see that EMJ's "goodbye" was premature. He has come back and posted a scopeshot (three, of the same signal at different resolutions). How he gets a pulsed signal from DC input he does not explain, he has not included a schematic with measurement points, just the scopeshot of output, nothing for input beyond the statement of DC input at

Input: 6.7V @ 0.110amps DC = 0.737 Watts DC Watts! Agreed?

. Agreed? No, not without some instrumental evidence. How do you get a pulsed output from a DC input?

Please examine these shots carefully, and you may notice some interesting things. Compare the actual _traces_ to what the "numbers in boxes" say. Do a ballpark calculation of average power based on the traces themselves. 

Bear in mind that the Hantek CC-65 current probe is set to provide 1 mV output for 10 mA sensed current. Is the channel "probe attenuation" setting set properly for this current probe? Does it matter? The Owon scope channel input defaults to 10x input when the scope is turned on (manual for scope attached below). Do you mentally multiply the trace readings shown by 10 to get the actual current value, or do you read the displayed mV as the mA value directly?

http://www.hantek.com/en/ProductDetail_15_77.html

Is the Hantek probe accurate?

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dc-current-clamp-or-multimeter-adaptor-advice/msg444607/#msg444607

Oh, sorry.... we are not going into measurement debate, are we.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg45423#msg45423

[TinselKoala]

What makes you think that Woopy would want to make it self loop?

Oh, nothing at all, other than maybe he might like to _prove_ the claim of overunity performance.

I wonder why anyone who has a device with a COP of over 50 to one would +not+ want to self-loop it. Afraid of the Men In Black boogeymen coming to suppress you?

When I tested Kohei Minato's motors, with Kohei-san's own test equipment and him standing right there beside me, back in the ISSO days, I asked him why he had not connected it to run itself, since he was claiming over 200 percent OU (a COP of only a bit over 2, as we usually use the term). He told me that God wouldn't like it if he did that. I am not kidding. So maybe woopy is afraid of God, too.

I'm not though. Send it to me and I'll self loop it, guaranteed. Of course... I can only do that if the claim of that much OU is actually true.

[synchro1]

Oh, nothing at all, other than maybe he might like to _prove_ the claim of overunity performance.

I wonder why anyone who has a device with a COP of over 50 to one would +not+ want to self-loop it. Afraid of the Men In Black boogeymen coming to suppress you?

When I tested Kohei Minato's motors, with Kohei-san's own test equipment and him standing right there beside me, back in the ISSO days, I asked him why he had not connected it to run itself, since he was claiming over 200 percent OU (a COP of only a bit over 2, as we usually use the term). He told me that God wouldn't like it if he did that. I am not kidding. So maybe woopy is afraid of God, too.

I'm not though. Send it to me and I'll self loop it, guaranteed. Of course... I can only do that if the claim of that much OU is actually true.

@TinselKoala,

You missed your calling as comedian. Really now; How do you think Woopyjump gets so much light for so Little power out of his setup?