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[MileHigh]

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/hoopmnst.htm   

That is just a dumb-ass experiment that is total horse shit by good old JLN Labs for people like him that have their minds tied to their behinds.

He has a BIG FAT flux-catching LOOP of wire.  The last time I looked EMF in the loop of wire is proportional to the net changing flux going though the ENTIRE LOOP.  It looks to me that there will be only a SINGLE POINT IN SPACE that will have a net-zero magnetic field because of the two magnets and at ALL OTHER POINTS IN SPACE there will be some kind of net magnetic field.

I also intuitively know that with two moving magnets and ABSOLUTELY PERFECT SYMMETRY in the whole system that you should get zero net changing flux through the ENTIRE LOOP.

i also intuitively know that it is ESSENTIALLY IMPOSSIBLE to set up an experiment with absolutely perfect symmetry and by looking at the pictures with the little moving carts that this is clearly the case in this experiment.

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If you take two identical magnets placed both orthogonaly (at right angle) to a copper wire, and if you move these magnets as shown above,the conventional Lenz law demonstrates that there is no electromagnetic induction in this copper wire, because the magnetic field is canceled.

BUT the experiment shows that THERE IS an electromagnetic induction in this copper wire. This electromagnetic induction with a zero magnetic field is called the motional E-field. This HOOPER-MONSTEIN effect can be easily explained with the Oliver Crane's theory and is also fully used by RQM ( Raum Quanten Motoren AG ) .

There is no "Hooper-Monstein effect" and poor Jean-Louis Naudin falls flat on his face yet again.

Faraday's Law holds true and you have to be crazy to think that there is any possible reason for this to not be true.  A crazy example of failure to think would be to believe in the non-existent "Hooper-Monstein effect."

Faraday's Law

Any change in the magnetic environment of a coil of wire will cause a voltage (emf) to be "induced" in the coil. No matter how the change is produced, the voltage will be generated. The change could be produced by changing the magnetic field strength, moving a magnet toward or away from the coil, moving the coil into or out of the magnetic field, rotating the coil relative to the magnet, etc.

You guys need to understand Nature and avoid the stupid junk from snake oil salesmen.

[MileHigh]

Do you see the red "X" along the wire?

That is the only point in 3D space that will have a net-zero magnetic field due to the presence of the two magnets.  Everywhere else in 3D space there will be some kind of magnetic field.

The giant LOOP of wire used in the experiment is sensitive to the net changing magnetic flux with respect to time through its cross-sectional area.

[tinman]

Well, I strongly suggest that you make a diagram or diagrams, because I can barely make head or tail of what you are talking about.  I suspect that others would be in the same boat as me.  You are back in your thinking bubble and you have to realize that we are not in your bubble.  For example, what the hell does "near" mean?  For me it could mean you are inside the toroid, or perhaps outside the toroid, or even on top of the toroid.   You need to make a diagram that is clear, and then annotate that diagram to show what you are talking about.

This is just like when beginners talk about electronic circuits in pure text.  In the vast majority of cases they are just BSing each other and chances are both parties haven't the foggiest idea what the other guy is saying, and yet they agree with each other.

Sorry MH
Bit hard to draw diagrams when im out on the road 2-3days at a time, so I try to explain my thoughts best I can. And hey-I know exactly what I mean lol.

[EMJunkie]

Do you see the red "X" along the wire?

That is the only point in 3D space that will have a net-zero magnetic field due to the presence of the two magnets.  Everywhere else in 3D space there will be some kind of magnetic field.

The giant LOOP of wire used in the experiment is sensitive to the net changing magnetic flux with respect to time through its cross-sectional area.

Only according to Conventional Magnetics MileHigh.

I think anyone would agree that there is a big problem. I have pointed out a huge hole MileHigh, this cant be ignored..

Any and all space that the Magnetic Field is at Velocity, and where the Magnetic Field Cuts the Conductor is subject to the same rules I have pointed out. Conventional perception of the Magnetic Field is incomplete.

   Chris

[Pirate88179]

Conventional perception of the Magnetic Field is incomplete.

   Chris

How is it that you can say this with a straight face when you don't even understand the conventional perception of the magnetic field?

It is exactly like when someone claims that conventional electronics knowledge is wrong, yet, they do not even know the basics of electronics.  These statements would have a lot more credibility if someone who knew and understood the conventional, proven, laws said them.  When it comes from a newbie, then...not so much.

Bill