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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie

@MarkE - Just for you old mate!

We have an Ideal Transformer. The input is reactive, phase can vary, but is typically around 70-90 Degrees.

The Input Circuit is optional.

Would a Transformer in this situation best be in resonance, LC Tank, either Series Resonant, or Parallel Resonant, if so, which and why?

PoyntyPants feel free to chime in here if you wish..

   Chris

EDIT: I forgot to mention, Loading the transformer will not drop the Transformer out of resonance.

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 16, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
@MarkE - Just for you old mate!

We have an Ideal Transformer. The input is reactive, phase can vary, but is typically around 70-90 Degrees.

The Input Circuit is optional.

Would a Transformer in this situation best be in resonance, LC Tank, either Series Resonant, or Parallel Resonant, if so, which and why?

PoyntyPants feel free to chime in here if you wish..

   Chris
So that's a big no on whether you have changed your view that you expressed in post #94?  Where you once argued that circuits with AC waveforms must be probed with the oscilloscope input coupling set to AC, do you now agree that is almost always wrong?  Have you gone back and retaken your measurements with your oscilloscope coupling set to DC?

In a transformer where K=1.0 means that no series inductance from the transformer appears between the coupled primary and secondary.  Only the magnetizing inductance appears in parallel with the input circuit output port / reflected secondary circuit input port.  The magnetizing inductance can be part of either a series or a parallel resonant tank.  Placing a capacitor in series within or between the input circuit and the transformer primary will form a series resonant network, while placing one in parallel with the primary will form a parallel resonant network.  Your stipulation of a phase angle in the range of 70-90 degrees could mean that there is already a series capacitor and that you are operating just beyond the natural series resonant frequency.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 07:33:31 PM

So that's a big no on whether you have changed your view that you expressed in post #94?  Where you once argued that circuits with AC waveforms must be probed with the oscilloscope input coupling set to AC, do you now agree that is almost always wrong?  Have you gone back a retaken your measurements with your oscilloscope coupling set to DC?


I still hold my point of view, measuring an AC Wave form with AC Coupling is perfectly ok as long as the fore mentioned criteria has been eliminated:

   1: DC Offset
   2: Symmetry of the Wave

There is nothing WRONG with using AC Coupling if one has eliminated the above.


Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 07:33:31 PM

In a transformer where K=1.0 means that no series inductance from the transformer appears between the coupled primary and secondary.  Only the magnetizing inductance appears in parallel with the input circuit output port / reflected secondary circuit input port.  The magnetizing inductance can be part of either a series or a parallel resonant tank.  Placing a capacitor in series within or between the input circuit and the transformer primary will form a series resonant network, while placing one in parallel with the primary will form a parallel resonant network.  Your stipulation of a phase angle in the range of 70-90 degrees could mean that there is already a series capacitor and that you are operating just beyond the natural series resonant frequency.


This does not answer the question...

This Ideal Transformer has no Capacitances except for the tiny capacitance between the Windings. Distributed Capacitance.

The Phase angle is a Characteristic of the Transformer.



MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 16, 2015, 07:56:02 PM
I still hold my point of view, measuring an AC Wave form with AC Coupling is perfectly ok as long as the fore mentioned criteria has been eliminated:

   1: DC Offset
   2: Symmetry of the Wave

There is nothing WRONG with using AC Coupling if one has eliminated the above.
But that is not what you used to say when you offered up your measurements claiming OU.  You claimed that AC coupling was required for any AC waveform.  Your new position is that AC coupling is acceptable provided certain criteria are met.  And even at that your criteria are incomplete for the statement to be true.  So, it would seem that you are only a little less lost.
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This does not answer the question...

This Ideal Transformer has no Capacitances except for the tiny capacitance between the Windings. Distributed Capacitance.

The Phase angle is a Characteristic of the Transformer.
I have answered the question far more completely than you asked it.  Once again you are lost in, wait for the irony ... your false assumptions.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on May 16, 2015, 08:06:37 PM
But that is not what you used to say when you offered up your measurements claiming OU.  You claimed that AC coupling was required for any AC waveform.  Your new position is that AC coupling is acceptable provided certain criteria are met.  And even at that your criteria are incomplete for the statement to be true.  So, it would seem that you are only a little less lost.I have answered the question far more completely than you asked it.  Once again you are lost in, wait for the irony ... your false assumptions.

MarkE - Back to your Non-Sense again by the looks of this!!!

   1: No - You have blatantly Lied!
   2: Again, you make a MarkE Assumption that is only your point of View...
   3: No, your supposed answer is not complete, you side tracked the entire question and offered no Answer at all!!!

Well, I keep trying with you MakrE! I keep seeing only one thing... I can see I really am wasting my time with you!!!

Don't tell me, it was you that voted False in the current Poll! Hahaha yes I see now what you're up too MarkE.