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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie

Quote from: Drak on May 18, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
I watched the video you posted and its way over my head, so forgive me if this is a stupid question.

Drak - Please try a simple experiment!

you will need:
   1: a Coil, 200 or so turns, No Core!
   2: A Neo Magnet
   3: Short the Coil, tie the ends together.

Sweep the Neo Magnet past the Coil, observe the Magnetic Field Interactions. A Dead Short on the Coil will Invoke Lenz's Law and the Fields will (On Neo Entry to Coil Proximity) Oppose each other!

This is SUPER Important to Understand!

Field Opposition!!! Charges in the Coil are already Separated, Current is the Cause of the Magnetic Field (Lenz's law), but the Current was already available, already on the Terminals!!! Waiting to Flow through a Load!!!

Re:
Quote from: Drak on May 18, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
If its power that is returning to the source doesn't that mean it didn't get used at the end point? Meaning no extra energy, just unused power being returned? That of course would reduce input, but wouldn't it still be equal to or greater then the end point?

You will have an Output. This is over and above, separate from the Input Power returning to the Source. My point was, that we need to find a way to Re-Circulate this Input Power... To bring about an Inductive Oscillatory arrangement that shows  very low Input Power Consumption on the Input - Floyd Sweet used the term "Excitation" to keep the process going...

   Chris

EMJunkie

Free Energy is ENTIRELY a Magnetic Interaction...

Power on the Terminals of an "Electric Generator" is entirely a Magnetic Interaction!!!

Energy is Pumped, NOT "Generated" - This is a Huge Mistake on the part of History!

Energy is Every Where! E = MC^2

Drak

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 18, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
Dark - Please try a simple experiment!

you will need:
   1: a Coil, 200 or so turns, No Core!
   2: A Neo Magnet
   3: Short the Coil, tie the ends together.

Sweep the Neo Magnet past the Coil, observe the Magnetic Field Interactions. A Dead Short on the Coil will Invoke Lenz's Law and the Fields will (On Neo Entry to Coil Proximity) Oppose each other!

I have experimented before with what you speak of. The counter force generated on the magnet as it attempts to move through a closed or loaded coil, aka lenz.

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 18, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
This is SUPER Important to Understand!

Field Opposition!!! Charges in the Coil are already Separated, Current is the Cause of the Magnetic Field (Lenz's law), but the Current was already available, already on the Terminals!!! Waiting to Flow through a Load!!!

   Chris

That kinda reminds me of Don Smith. Never figured that one out either.


Quote from: EMJunkie on May 18, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
You will have an Output. This is over and above, separate from the Input Power returning to the Source.

Can you go into a little more detail here. I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 18, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
My point was, that we need to find a way to Re-Circulate this Input Power... To bring about an Inductive Oscillatory arrangement that shows  very low Input Power Consumption on the Input - Floyd Sweet used the term "Excitation" to keep the process going...

If its being returned to the source won't it be Re-Circulated automatically? Or wasted in heat somehow.


ps... its drak, not dark  ;)

EMJunkie

Sorry, I will edit and correct my error: Drak

Quote from: Drak on May 18, 2015, 08:46:32 PM

I have experimented before with what you speak of. The counter force generated on the magnet as it attempts to move through a closed or loaded coil, aka lenz.


Exactly! You already know what I am talking about! A Changing Magnetic Field!

Quote from: Drak on May 18, 2015, 08:46:32 PM

That kinda reminds me of Don Smith. Never figured that one out either.


You will, be patient - "Little Steps for Little Feet" - Feynman

Know where and how, Energy's most important requirements! For there is nothing like really knowing something, the world opens up!

Quote from: Drak on May 18, 2015, 08:46:32 PM

Can you go into a little more detail here. I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

If its being returned to the source won't it be Re-Circulated automatically?


Excellent - Good question. This depends entirely on the setup. In some situations it may mean that yes, it is automatically Circulated. Sometimes its just dumped to ground and not recirculated. This is something that needs to be determined and realised.

I was hoping our resident guru's would be of use here but alas, they are too busy being Trolls.

In an Inductive Capacitive Circuit Energy is Re-Circulated, back and forth from the Capacitor and Inductor. There are losses typically in a Resonant Circuit, and the Efficiency of the Re-Circulation of Energy is determined by the "Q Factor" the Higher the Q Factor, the less Energy you have to put in to keep the Resonance going!

However, we have quite a different situation here. Out input coil is acting almost as if it has "Capacity" It does, but more than usual! Almost as if the Input Coil is already in a type of Resonance! In a RLC Circuit, one would typically see a 90 degree phase shift from Voltage to Current. With no Capacitance as such we are seeing a 94 Degree Phase shift already.

The point of me showing the 160 Degree Phase shift, was to show that the Circuit with a Capacitance does not behave like a normal RLC Resonant Circuit. Alas, no one wanted to pic up the ball and point this out... Instead, speculations about a standard Mathematical Calculation were tossed about...

Does this help any?

   Chris

Pirate88179

Quote from: picowatt on May 18, 2015, 07:15:20 PM
There is no defense...

If one defines a "troll" as someone who posts off topic comments purely for the sake of invoking a mostly negative emotional response, then you have by far out-trolled anyone on this thread.

And yes, I remember when you asked those requesting more details regarding your claims and measurements, or discussing how you should have been using DC coupling, to leave this thread (even though their posts were relevant to the topic and claims made).

I also remember you bombing this thread with page after page of childishly arrogant sociopathy until it earned you a warning from Stefan.  Lately, you seem to be slipping back into that habit, and yet now you want everyone to take you and this thread seriously.

For example, last night, MarkE posted a reply to TK as follows:

Your reply to MarkE was as follows:
MarkE raised two important points in his reply.  Both of those points, the limitations of your calculator and the proper selection of measurement points, made perfect sense.  It is also rather obvious that the waveforms Mark was discussing were those related to your COP=1.7 claims, not the more recent "mostly" sinusoidal I&V waveforms.

For you to consider his post to be, as you stated, "Utter non-sense", surely means that you either do not understand the points he raised or that you are just posting non-sense in some attempt to insult Mark.

If your goal was to insult Mark, well, that speaks for itself regarding you, but if you truly did not understand Mark's comments, you would have been better advised to ask him what he meant and possibly learn something from it.

PW

Well said PW. 

Bill
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