Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[picowatt]

I think the next video(which is uploading now) will sort it all out PW. If your still not happy with the result's,then i will follow all the instructions and measurements above.

Now,below is a scope shot showing the current flow through both secondary coil's. Can you guess which scope trace is showing the current flow of the outer secondary,and which is showing the current flow of the inner secondary. This shows that i am using DC coupling on the scope,or both traces would show the same-but they do not. The CSR's being used are two 2.2 ohm 1 watt resisters-one on each output of course. The loads are the two identical globe's you have seen in all the other video's.

Tinman,

When you get an obvious and/or unusual waveform with DC offset of the I or V indicated in one channel over the other during these tests, consider getting into the habit of swapping the probes between the input channels by unplugging the BNC's at the scope and reversing them to verify your scope channels.  What you are observing is "strange" enough to warrant extra effort to rule out any measurement/equipment errors.  Your recent post of the current traces using a CSR would have been an excellent opportunity to swap the probes/channels to increase measurement confidence (further proving, for example, that both channels are indeed switching to their "commanded" DC coupling , i.e., not a faulty input relay, etc, and that there is no excessive offset in one channel over the other).

Also, just FYI, I am uncomfortable seeing scope captures from digital scopes wherein the traces exceed the vertical limits of the screen.  For example, I have a PC based scope that will clamp tall positive peaks and push the bulk of the waveform deceptively (and quite erroneously) downward.  Fortunately, a flashing red warning flag alerts one to this overload condition.  I am not at all saying this is happening with your scope, just that my lack of familiarity with your scope makes me uncomfortable seeing those excessive excursions.

I would be more comfortable with the vertical scaling you use to accentuate/highlight the strange -DC offset you are observing if I knew that you were also double/triple checking your measurements at lower V sensitivities and confirming the measured oddity remains even at those more appropriate vertical sensitivities.
 
PW

[picowatt]

Tinman,

PLEASE do at least one quick test with the secondary isolated from the drain (and the rest of the circuit) and with only one scope probe connected directly across the lamp connected to the secondary.  Trigger from that singular probe/channel (no other scope connections to the circuit!).

If I understand how you have everything connected, I am very uncomfortable with the connection of the scope ground to the MOSFET drain. 

PW

[tinman]

Tinman,

PLEASE do at least one quick test with the secondary isolated from the drain (and the rest of the circuit) and with only one scope probe connected directly across the lamp connected to the secondary.  Trigger from that singular probe/channel (no other scope connections to the circuit!).

If I understand how you have everything connected, I am very uncomfortable with connecting the scope ground to the MOSFET drain. 

PW

Im going as quick as i can PW.
The next video will shed all doubt i believe. I am joining it all up now,and then will upload it. I will wiat up tonight until it is done,then post the link here.
This is one you will want to see,and i dont think there is much more i can do to show that the current flow during the off time IS actually there.

If you(or anyone else) are still not satisfied with the result's,then i will be more than happy to carry out any test you wish-->and i believe i have tried to do that to this point.

It may just about be time to have a closer look at the magnetic field within a toroid core-as i cannot get this effect with any other transformer-except the small one i made today using the pot core and toroid inner core. But even then,the effect isnt as strong,but it is there. this may be due to the fact that there is quite a bit of air space between the pot core,and the inner core-->also a lot smaller.

[picowatt]

Im going as quick as i can PW.
The next video will shed all doubt i believe. I am joining it all up now,and then will upload it. I will wiat up tonight until it is done,then post the link here.
This is one you will want to see,and i dont think there is much more i can do to show that the current flow during the off time IS actually there.

If you(or anyone else) are still not satisfied with the result's,then i will be more than happy to carry out any test you wish-->and i believe i have tried to do that to this point.

It may just about be time to have a closer look at the magnetic field within a toroid core-as i cannot get this effect with any other transformer-except the small one i made today using the pot core and toroid inner core. But even then,the effect isnt as strong,but it is there. this may be due to the fact that there is quite a bit of air space between the pot core,and the inner core-->also a lot smaller.

Tinman,

I have no doubt from the tests you have already performed that there is indeed current flowing during the off period (and my confidence in your scope's performance is increasing as well).  The real issue now is why is that current flow happening?  Is it a magnetics/transformer issue related to your unusual toroid configuration or an unidentified leakage path?

The isolated secondary/isolated scope test I have discussed is with regard to further defining the answer to those questions.

However, you are indeed correct, once all other possibilities are ruled out and it does indeed appear that there is something unique about your "toroid inside a toroid", it definitely would warrant further investigation.

PW 

[tinman]

Tinman,

   Your recent post of the current traces using a CSR would have been an excellent opportunity to swap the probes/channels to increase measurement confidence (further proving, for example, that both channels are indeed switching to their "commanded" DC coupling , i.e., not a faulty input relay, etc, and that there is no excessive offset in one channel over the other).

Also, just FYI, I am uncomfortable seeing scope captures from digital scopes wherein the traces exceed the vertical limits of the screen.  For example, I have a PC based scope that will clamp tall positive peaks and push the bulk of the waveform deceptively (and quite erroneously) downward.  Fortunately, a flashing red warning flag alerts one to this overload condition.  I am not at all saying this is happening with your scope, just that my lack of familiarity with your scope makes me uncomfortable seeing those excessive excursions.

I would be more comfortable with the vertical scaling you use to accentuate/highlight the strange -DC offset you are observing if I knew that you were also double/triple checking your measurements at lower V sensitivities and confirming the measured oddity remains even at those more appropriate vertical sensitivities.
 
PW

When you get an obvious and/or unusual waveform with DC offset of the I or V indicated in one channel over the other during these tests, consider getting into the habit of swapping the probes between the input channels by unplugging the BNC's at the scope and reversing them to verify your scope channels.

I do this often throughout testing.

Also, just FYI, I am uncomfortable seeing scope captures from digital scopes wherein the traces exceed the vertical limits of the screen.  For example, I have a PC based scope that will clamp tall positive peaks and push the bulk of the waveform deceptively (and quite erroneously) downward.  Fortunately, a flashing red warning flag alerts one to this overload condition.  I am not at all saying this is happening with your scope, just that my lack of familiarity with your scope makes me uncomfortable seeing those excessive excursions.

I will normally have the V/D's so as the whole trace is in the screen. I only decrease the V/D's when i want a more accurate reading on the lower voltage level. If you noted,the voltage readings on the right side of the screen do not change regardless of V/D level.

What you are observing is "strange" enough to warrant extra effort to rule out any measurement/equipment errors.

This is exactly what i do in the next video. I have removed the transformer,and started from scratch by redoing a continuity on all coils. I have then shown (via way of the two diodes on the globe)the current flowing in both,and either direction. I used my scope to show this. Then the scope is disconected from the system altogether,and i use my DMM amp meter to show the current flow,and we also have visual confirmation by the globe it self.

Now,here is a kicker. The DMM read's 0.000A on DC when the diodes are emmited from the output circuit. Do you know what that means PW?.