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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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tinman

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 27, 2015, 01:08:23 AM
Wait for it - Patent application coming with PoyntyPants's Name on the top...

See what I mean Tinman!

A Scout, for the machine, to Scout out, take small things, make them bigger and then sell off.

Now do you believe me?

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

I guess there are those you trust,and those you dont Chris.
Poynt happens to be one of those i trust-although i am a little disheartened that he thinks that what he tells me falls on deaf ears-->but it dosnt. It gives me the drive to check and recheck my work,and this is what i have done throughout my experimenting.

Chris,believe me when i say that Poynt is NOT some one that will do wrong by anyone here. He has done nothing but help me since i joined OUR-->even to go as far as taking the time to talk me through devices on the phone,or by skype. You dont get this often,as most simply dont have the time for amatures like myself.

My point is-GOD him self could come and tell me i have nothing out of the ordinary going on,but if i believe i do,then i will keep on going until i either find out my self i dont,or some one else see's something interesting happening-->as you did in that email i sent you.

I guess we just go about things differently when we see something interesting.
You come straight out and say-free energy device,where is i sneak out bits and pieces,and then let others find a similar effect. There also needs to be care taken where you post what,and who you share what with. You have found out first hand what happens when you just pop up and scream !free energy device!-->the sh-t hit's the fan. I have chosen to share my design openly,but take care when showing first stage results.

You must remember-->those that live and breath convention,will only ever see convention. This means that the unconventional will be missed. They are taught and believe they will see only conventional,so they become blind in an unconventional way.

As you have seen,it is a close call,and there is room for error,but im not sure how you could screw that test up i showed you ??? The P/in and P/out couldnt be much more simpler.

madddann

Hello Tinman!

I followed the discussion here and watched your videos and I'm aware of what you are trying to say.
I'm just an average (or below average) experimenter with an electronics school...

I don't want to burst your bubble, but from my experience there is a problem with your video "super transformer test 3".
Look at the lightbulb when you connect the clip lead to one diode, and then look again when you connect it to the other... why is with the positive half of the waveform the bulb much brighter then with the negative half?
The big problem here is that you take the average voltage and current measurements for top half and for bottom half of the waveform - if you try to calculate the power from this values, you will come to the conclusion that the bottom half of the waveform is giving you more power than the top half - which is not true - look at the lightbulb again.

The thing is that only if you multiply the instantaneous voltage and current you will come to the right answer.

Hope It helps.

Keep up the experimenting work and good luck with it! ;)

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on May 27, 2015, 01:53:36 AM
I guess there are those you trust,and those you dont Chris.
Poynt happens to be one of those i trust-although i am a little disheartened that he thinks that what he tells me falls on deaf ears-->but it dosnt. It gives me the drive to check and recheck my work,and this is what i have done throughout my experimenting.

Chris,believe me when i say that Poynt is NOT some one that will do wrong by anyone here. He has done nothing but help me since i joined OUR-->even to go as far as taking the time to talk me through devices on the phone,or by skype. You dont get this often,as most simply dont have the time for amatures like myself.

My point is-GOD him self could come and tell me i have nothing out of the ordinary going on,but if i believe i do,then i will keep on going until i either find out my self i dont,or some one else see's something interesting happening-->as you did in that email i sent you.

I guess we just go about things differently when we see something interesting.
You come straight out and say-free energy device,where is i sneak out bits and pieces,and then let others find a similar effect. There also needs to be care taken where you post what,and who you share what with. You have found out first hand what happens when you just pop up and scream !free energy device!-->the sh-t hit's the fan. I have chosen to share my design openly,but take care when showing first stage results.

You must remember-->those that live and breath convention,will only ever see convention. This means that the unconventional will be missed. They are taught and believe they will see only conventional,so they become blind in an unconventional way.

As you have seen,it is a close call,and there is room for error,but im not sure how you could screw that test up i showed you ??? The P/in and P/out couldnt be much more simpler.

Hi Tinman, you're a good hearted person!

A very well worded response. Nice! I like it. I also have a few very good friends that have helped me as you describe. This is the kind of friendship that one never forgets! I have such a deep respect for those that have helped me! They know who they are!

So, in respect for you Tinman, I will say no more about that!

Yes, we have shared dialogs, your experiment was excellent!

Re Convention, I agree with what you said, but a point I would like to bring up, is that; If one properly studies the Convention of the "Electric Generator" then what we are talking about is perfectly conventional in every sense of the word - Why is it not currently considered to be conventional? it is because through the years and Textbooks every "Electric Generator" has been said to be well understood but deliberately left mysterious and vague.

An example: The Name: "Electric Generator" - when Science has clearly said for eons that Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed... Here in lies just one example. Ask any college Science Teacher How an "Electric Generator" works, they have not a clue as to how it works properly. Yet they teach about Electricity every day!

In this thread, I have clearly stated many times, with Posts and in the Polls exactly, with references, how an "Electric Generator" works. Its simple!

So, Science has deliberately left this area Vague, and Mystical, but I believe this area to be far from Un-Conventional, where other areas are exactly this.

If one looks at History, all discovery's that have resulted in Free Energy Machines, many of the Inventors have studied in detail How an "Electric Generator" works! - It is ESSENTIAL 101 Knowledge that all here researching this field should start with as No#1 Priority!!!

If you don't know and Understand this, very Important knowledge, then you're going to waste Time and Money Blindly seeking something you don't know anything about! Energy comes from a single source, this fact will never ever change! The method of excitation may vary but the source never can!!!

When I use the word, "you", I mean this as YOU the reader and it is not directed at anyone person!

You should be proud Tinman, many here have spent eons working on this and not got near your experiment! Well done.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

minnie




   Yesterday I was shifting shit (by hand) something I've had to do throughout
  my working life (55 years) and so I know what it looks like by now. The pages
  on this forum are full of the stuff.
       The thing to do is to analyse the original idea theoretically. If someone can
  come up with a bullet-proof idea using pencil and paper then it will be worth
  while investing in tinkering. Just playing with conventional transformers isn't
  going to get anyone anywhere.
                     John.

tinman

Quote from: madddann on May 27, 2015, 03:13:44 AM
Hello Tinman!

I followed the discussion here and watched your videos and I'm aware of what you are trying to say.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but from my experience there is a problem with your video "super transformer test 3".
Look at the lightbulb when you connect the clip lead to one diode, and then look again when you connect it to the other... why is with the positive half of the waveform the bulb much brighter then with the negative half?
The big problem here is that you take the average voltage and current measurements for top half and for bottom half of the waveform - if you try to calculate the power from this values, you will come to the conclusion that the bottom half of the waveform is giving you more power than the top half - wich is not true - look at the lightbulb again.

The thing is that only if you multiply the instantaneous voltage and current you will come to the right answer.

Hope It helps.

Keep up the experimenting work and good luck with it! ;)
You forget that the lightbulb has less resistance when it is cooler,and thus places more load on the inductor. The voltage and current is far less during the off time than it is during the on time,but the off time is far longer than the on time,and thus over a period of one cycle,we get a higher power output from the off time.

QuoteI'm just an average (or below average) experimenter with an electronics school...

Cool,lets put your schooling to the test.
Which of the below has the higher end energy output.
1.5V @ 1 amp for 1 second.
Or- .5V @ 500mA for 20 second's

You should also remember we are at 7KHz,so do you think the filament in the globe will cool in 1/7000th of a second before the next power hit?.