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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 28, 2015, 07:33:58 PM
PW,

I like your post, its decent, achievable for all here.

Still you avoided my question - No matter.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


As if you have never avoided a question.

Which I don't believe I did...




EMJunkie

Quote from: picowatt on May 28, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
As if you have never avoided a question.

Which I don't believe I did...

PW,

I have avoided Questions on topics I said I was not going to discuss, for this very reason.

But, all questions asked outside that, I have answered. If not then please represent your question and if I have missed it, I will answer it.

The question I asked required a +-% Value, I did not read any such value. No matter, its not important at this stage. You have already given the information I was getting to for others reading.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 28, 2015, 05:10:19 PM
Drak - Of course they are.

If you had to go out and spend $6000+ on probes, which 99% of Engineers don't! then the average lab would be completely unaffordable! This attitude is ridiculous. Totally unachievable for 100% of active researchers here!

Unless one had 100 Million to spend on their Lab...

Any High Frequency Device is going to be hard to measure, this is obvious. Try to aim low Frequency instead.

However, to get a basic picture on what's going on, start at the start! A budget 70 Dollar probe will do fine to start with!

This is all I use, it is all I need: Hantek CC-65

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org
Just because a convenient instrument is unaffordable does not offer license to use an instrument that is not suitable.  GIGO is not acceptable because of budget.  A knowledgeable  person like TK can often find a way to alter the test set-up so that the quantities that need to be evaluated can on a tight budget.  Common techniques are to use decouplng so that the signal content that needs to be measured is reduced to a value that is within the capability of lower cost instruments.  Another technique is to use non-inductive current sense resistors instead of a non-contact probe.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on May 28, 2015, 08:45:12 PM

Just because a convenient instrument is unaffordable does not offer license to use an instrument that is not suitable.  GIGO is not acceptable because of budget.


MarkE - Your statement is simply ridiculous! You are implying all low budget instruments used to take any measurements offer nothing but GIGO (Garbage In / Garbage Out) and should not be used! This is nothing but a ridiculous statement! You may as well say No budget Instruments should be manufactured and sold!


Quote from: MarkE on May 28, 2015, 08:45:12 PM

A knowledgeable  person like TK can often find a way to alter the test set-up so that the quantities that need to be evaluated can on a tight budget.  Common techniques are to use decouplng so that the signal content that needs to be measured is reduced to a value that is within the capability of lower cost instruments. 


And anyone offering any measurements would no doubt have any problem offering information on the Make and Model of Instruments used. From there an analyses can be made of the limitations and or issues along with the +- margin of error.

Quote from: MarkE on May 28, 2015, 08:45:12 PM

Another technique is to use non-inductive current sense resistors instead of a non-contact probe.


This I just can not believe!

You would rather introduce Line impedance into the circuit being tested than use a Budget Probe? Surely this is the most ridiculous statement you have ever made? This is undoubtably a way to take measurements but certainly this does introduce a host of other problems in the scheme of testing and verifying! Relying on this method alone is certainly not something I would suggest!

The entire Electrical Engineering industry is in such a state! It offers Instruments that don't work according to many Engineers, Oscilloscopes that have functions that don't work, the list goes on!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on May 28, 2015, 08:45:12 PM
Just because a convenient instrument is unaffordable does not offer license to use an instrument that is not suitable.  GIGO is not acceptable because of budget.  A knowledgeable  person like TK can often find a way to alter the test set-up so that the quantities that need to be evaluated can on a tight budget.  Common techniques are to use decouplng so that the signal content that needs to be measured is reduced to a value that is within the capability of lower cost instruments.  Another technique is to use non-inductive current sense resistors instead of a non-contact probe.

MarkE - What's your +- on all your $6000+ probes?

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org