Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

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@All - Tinman has done an excellent job here!

You're right Tinman, my case and point! Yes meters can have limitations and In-accuracy's, but they all do, just varyingly!

   Chris Sykes
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You seem to have totally missed my point regarding bandwidth.  Even your 5KHz circuits, unless they are pure sine waves, require a measurement bandwidth many times that 5KHz frequency.

Just as Tinman has done, a properly utilized low inductance resistor can be more accurate than a low BW probe, regardless of that probe's percentage error within its operational BW, when measuring waveforms that exceed the probes specified bandwidth.

[MarkE]

Funny thing is that i can measure the power from each half of the output just as accurately as that $4000.00 plus unit can-+/- 4%,for about $1.50 We then just minus 4% from the end meassured total,and we know we have at least X amount of power.

There are often ways to configure a circuit so that it can be reasonably evaluated using inexpensive equipment.  But it is sheer nonsense for anyone to declare that because they don't have budget they can substitute an arbitrary instrument that they can afford.

[EMJunkie]

You seem to have totally missed my point regarding bandwidth.

PW - Not at all.

Even your 5KHz circuits, unless they are pure sine waves, require a measurement bandwidth many times that 5KHz frequency.

Yes, I think you missed mine? I quote:

Like I have already said, 40Hz to 5KHz is the range most of my devices fall in, 99% are much less than 5KHz!

For example my last device shown was 664Hz

I am, and have for quite some time, only used Sine Waves, maybe you have not read any of my posts. From the early days I tried to get the idea into everyone's head that "Sine Waves work also"

Just as Tinman has done, a properly utilized low inductance resistor can be more accurate than a low BW probe, regardless of that probe's percentage error within its operational BW, when measuring waveforms that exceed the probes specified bandwidth.

PW, I don't disagree, and there is nothing wrong with using a Sense Resistor as a method of checking against Probe measurements. But like I said, a sense resistor introduces a new set of problems.

In saying this, a Probe that is used, as long as it is within its recommended ranges, is still a better method of measuring than a sense resistor! See, you used the word "can" which means youre attempting to cast doubt, and also expecting User Error. Like I pointed out before:

Measurements are only ever as good as the Knowledge of the Person and Procedures followed, no matter how expensive the equipment! Its always nice to have good equipment, but as always, budget is everyone's limitation!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

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EM,

Its been a while since you discussed the topic of this thread, but I do not recall that you used sine waves when you made what I thought was a claim of 1.7 OU.

However, if you are indeed measuring sine waves below 1KHz, that Hantek probe should perform well for you.

And like you said:

Measurements are only ever as good as the Knowledge of the Person and Procedures followed, no matter how expensive the equipment! Its always nice to have good equipment, but as always, budget is everyone's limitation!

So make sure you measure the I and V on the correct node...

[EMJunkie]

EM,

Its been a while since you discussed the topic of this thread, but I do not recall that you used sine waves when you made what I thought was a claim of 1.7 OU.

However, if you are indeed measuring sine waves below 1KHz, that Hantek probe should perform well for you.

And like you said:
So make sure you measure the I and V on the correct node...

Hahahaha I was waiting for it... Insinuation the Claim carry on...

Google: EMJunkie Sine Wave site:http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy

You're going to be surprised by the result!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org