Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[tinman]

No Woopy, I resent being called the bad guy for pushing Tinman to try to do better.   It has to be "pushed and forced" into him over and over.  He also has issues where he can't admit that he made a mistake and it just becomes silly.  He can't simply say, "I admit that I made a mistake, thank you for correcting me."  His presentation of his information is fair to poor to very poor, and he doesn't believe in any kind of professional courtesy with respect to providing complete information and summarizing his data for his audience.  So for me it's too frustrating to deal with him.  Nor is Tinman any kind of special person that is above criticism.

So I am not "shooting down" Tinman and I am not a "bad guy."  I think my pushing him and making demands of him are and were reasonable.  Reasonable demands, not crazy demands.  I don't have the patience that Mark or PW have and I don't believe that people should always "bend over ass-backwards" to "compensate" for Tinman's deficiencies.    It shouldn't be so difficult.

I am no angel, and Tinman is certainly no angel either.  Clearly, I am not the person to engage with Timnan on his projects and I should stay away.

    I don't know if it will take days or several weeks to finally arrive at the proper conclusion.  But in the end the truth will come out.

Yes, I pushed him in a way that he did not like and sometimes people need a push like that.  I was not "shooting him down" I was demanding petter performance from him and he is clearly refusing to try to do that.  I am not the bad guy.

MileHIgh

Tinman has issues with refusing to accept information that he doesn't believe is right.

Your dam straight i do. If i dont think it's right,and im seeing that on my bench,then i choose to believe in my self.

I have watched many big, long, hard, grinding debates over weeks and weeks between Tinman and experts like Mark and PW where after all that time it turns out that Tinman was completely wrong.

Please post such debates. I seem to remember some test i carried out where i was left with more stored energy than what i started with-in the form of compressed gases. MarkE done the calculations for me,and i can get the same results every time. Weather or not that extra stored energy can do more useful work than that of the starting energy is unknown.

Beyond that, I will simply repeat that he does not have any free energy technology with this setup.  He has been through this loop many times in the past and in the end there is always some reason for the misunderstanding.

I have claimed no free energy device. I have shown only what i see.

Like I said, coil shorting is not a source of free energy.  It would appear that Tinman believes that it is, because that is the key component in his setup.

You really need to stop putting words into peoples mouth MH,as that is crap. The coil shorting is only one part of the complete system,and as i have stated(many times now),there are components that are NOT depicted in the basic schematic supplied.

I should have known better to put forth anything before you. You have a one tracked mind-that being-->it hasnt been done before,there for it wont ever be done.
Hail those from the past that leave no path for the future.

[MileHigh]

Here is the issue in a nutshell:

What i can assure you of is that the meters are reading correctly

If the meters are reading correctly then do you have a free energy machine?  This is an ongoing investigation on your part.

Your meters are showing about 9.5 watts being drawn by the total system and about 17 watts going to the light bulb load.  That sure looks like a free energy machine.

What you should be saying is that your meters _appear_ to be reading correctly because if hypothetically you were to take them at face value and you had 100% confidence in what your meters were telling you then you have revolutionized the world and you have a free energy machine.

So the conservative thing, and the proper thing to say at this point is that you have some kind of unexplainable anomaly with your meter readings.  You are far from being in a position of assuring me that the meters are reading correctly.

[NickZ]

   So, is this partnered coil set up just more efficient, or is there a free energy side to it, eventually?
   Is the level of efficiency all there is to this, or what exactly are partnered coil good for?
   
   This reminds me of Tito.  I got a secret. But, I'm not telling.  5 years spent telling us hints...   about rat traps, and such

[EMJunkie]

Your dam straight i do. If i dont think it's right,and im seeing that on my bench,then i choose to believe in my self.

Please post such debates. I seem to remember some test i carried out where i was left with more stored energy than what i started with-in the form of compressed gases. MarkE done the calculations for me,and i can get the same results every time. Weather or not that extra stored energy can do more useful work than that of the starting energy is unknown.

I have claimed no free energy device. I have shown only what i see.

You really need to stop putting words into peoples mouth MH,as that is crap. The coil shorting is only one part of the complete system,and as i have stated(many times now),there are components that are NOT depicted in the basic schematic supplied.

I should have known better to put forth anything before you. You have a one tracked mind-that being-->it hasnt been done before,there for it wont ever be done.
Hail those from the past that leave no path for the future.

Tinman - Milehigh is Clinically Insane!

The point is, if the meters say you have something, and you can replicate the same thing time again, then you have something! Debate over.

This is very quickly going the way the Bill Alek debate went.

What a shame! Adults? Hahahaha are they? Many good people here is why I persist, some as always, that ruin it for all!

Someone Ban and Boot this Lunatic MileHigh! Insane people that have been asked to leave that don't, should be Booted and Banned!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[allcanadian]

@Nick

You may have touched on the partial answer my question, as to WHY we don't GET IT. [/size]    Mind control!!!  Airborn devices, satellite woodpecker signals, Tv commercials, Cell phone, etz...     Microwave interference, altering the mind's ability to conceive certain ideas, such as FE concepts,  etz...    So, we are not free to invent, nor re-invent,  at all.

It is quite natural to lay blame elsewhere however it is generally we who are responsible for our own actions and thoughts. It is quite natural for most to see the world objectively ie. simply filled with simple tangible objects separated by empty spaces even if it is sheer delusion. It is very hard to change our perspective of reality however understanding 99% of what we know is simply an illusion is a good start. For example we can do a real life experiment which I have done in the past which may change our perspective in ways we cannot imagine.


I remember one instance which led to a level of insight I cannot even begin to explain and it is very simple. On a clear calm night go outside and lay on the ground on your back looking up at all those stars for an hour or so. Now just lay back and really relax and if your like most people you may get the sense the stars are moving across the sky however this did not happen in my case. In my case I felt in a very real sense that I and the Earth below me were rotating and the stars were stationary which is in fact the true reality of what is actually happening. Which raises one very important question... Why in most every case does our mind tell us the stars are moving across the sky when we know this is not actually true?. The correct perception is that we are moving with the Earth and the stars stationary and until you can actually sense the reality of what you know is fundamentally true then you will always be stuck in an illusion your mind has created for you. Have you ever seen one of those pictures made up of colored dots where a 3D image appears if you stare at it long enough... it's like that and patience is required.... the stars are not moving you are.


Here is another thought experiment, look at any ordinary object and consider what you see. What you see is in fact an illusion your mind has created just for you to keep you relatively sane. That object is an aggregate of particles separated by a relatively large distance, moving near the speed of light and held in place by EM fields. There is nothing solid about it nor tangible in a relative sense and yet our mind tells us it has solidity when we know as a fact there is none present. It is a quagmire of delusion between what our mind tells us and what we know of the facts so why would we believe something we know is not fundamentally true?. Hence the confusion and if we could build a set of full spectrum EM glasses which could show matter, an object, for what it truly is it would probably look like the surface of the Sun. This is the difference between what our mind tells us and science and at some point we have to trust that someone somewhere made the effort to prove what our mind tells us we see is not the whole truth.


So there is no need to lay blame on others for our own twisted sense of normalcy bearing no resemblance to what we may or may not intuitively know to be true. The secret here is called Critical Thinking where we challenge everything including our own thoughts and beliefs and perceptions and this is the only way I know of to move forward and really learn something new.


That person we think we see in the mirror every morning is the problem.... but then again they may just as well be the solution depending on our perspective and our action.


AC