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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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a.king21

The overunity waveform.




DESIGNED TO GIVE THE PTB A REVERSE ORGASM:




Whatever you do - do not mix static  electricity or radiant energy with "ordinary" electricity.


And DO NOT look at the waveform below.


Now wait for the comments from the graduates of the University of "DUHHHHHH"

synchro1


MileHigh

Quote from: a.king21 on July 17, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
The overunity waveform.

DESIGNED TO GIVE THE PTB A REVERSE ORGASM:

Whatever you do - do not mix static  electricity or radiant energy with "ordinary" electricity.

And DO NOT look at the waveform below.

Now wait for the comments from the graduates of the University of "DUHHHHHH"

The RomeroUK motor was a proven fraud.  You will believe anything and I don't get a sense that electronics and related stuff is something that you understand very well.

It Tinman bought a 25-watt DC to DC converter and connected it to his motor to do a self-looping test the motor would stop in probably less than three seconds.

Void

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 17, 2015, 07:37:43 PM
In all fairness, that is a good point. If a device is drawing energy from some other source than its main power supply, and produces more output than is provided by the main supply, then CofE need not be violated. However, that outside energy source should be capable of being identified somehow. For example, there could be another battery hidden in the switchbox. There could be some fortuitous pickup of radiated power from a very nearby commercial radio transmitter. Or any of several other things I can think of. We are assuming, I suppose, that the battery or PSU is the _only_ source of power to TinMan's device. But my statement still stands true: The output of the device is not greater than its input, in spite of the measurements _that have been made so far_. If the external source of power isn't being included in the input measurements... whose responsibility/fault is that? We have been told, I think, that the visible power input measurements are measuring the input power to the device. If this is not true... then clearly more and better measurements need to be made.

Hi TK. Well, there could possibly be some more conventional other source of energy that we don't know about that accounts for the
apparent excess measured at the load, but I was suggesting the possibility that something less conventional such as something
unusual going on with this setup that causes energy in some form to be drawn in from the environment in some as yet unknown
way, as another possibility without there being a violation of conservation of energy. 

I was just posing this as a possibility (regardless of how remote some people may think that possibility would be) of how someone might
see more power out than is being drawn from a supply, if we assume that sufficent steps have been taken at some point to
pretty much rule out measurement error or other oversights. I realize of course that in a scientific or engineering lab setup many steps would be
taken first to try to completely eliminate any possibility of measurement error or of overlooking other more mundane potential causes
or factors before anyone would even start considering other possible explanations, but I was just pointing out that if Tinman's 
setup really is delivering more power out to the load than is being supplied by the battery, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a violation of
conservation of energy. If Tinman's mesaurements are valid and nothing else is being overlooked in regards to other conventional sources of
energy interfacing to his device in a way that we don't know about, then it would seem at least possible that something more unusual could be
going on there.

However since we can't examine Tinman's setup up close and inspect every wire and connection, etc., we kind of have 
our hands tied. In this sort of situation, no matter what Tinman does to show there are no other external sources of power,
many people will still be very suspicious or insist Tinman is still making a major error somewhere, even if no one can
point to what that error might be. Trying to do this via video demonstrations is probably not ever going to go anywhere even
if Tinman takes lots more steps to show as best as he can that there are no hidden wires or hidden power sources, and that
there is no other powered equipment nearby that might be coupling power into his motor windings or whatever.
This approach can be used to help find a measurement problem or oversight if one exists, but if none are found then we will
still be left with people saying that something must still be wrong or overlooked, and nothing will be gained.

Even in the case where someone demonstrates a self sustaining device, many people will still insist there must be hidden wires
or hidden batteries or other tricks. There is no way to say for certain from watching a video whether there is or there isn't.
Do you really honestly think that if Tinman showed a self running configuration that anyone would really be satisified? ;)

If Tinman is making a mistake or overlooking something then doing some more tests and checks may find it,
but if he is not making any mistakes and not overlooking anything or neglecting to mention some other possible
external source of power, then this is not likely going to go anywhere further than it already has I don't think.

Tinman's meter measurements and other steps he has taken looked pretty sound already.
Unless someone can think of something where a potential error was made or something was overlooked then
I think there may not be much more that can be done other than someone visiting Tinman and
inspecting and measuring everything in person to confirm Tinman's results, but Tinman has made it clear he
is not intending to reveal more details at this point.

All the best...


MarkE

Quote from: a.king21 on July 17, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
The overunity waveform.




DESIGNED TO GIVE THE PTB A REVERSE ORGASM:




Whatever you do - do not mix static  electricity or radiant energy with "ordinary" electricity.


And DO NOT look at the waveform below.


Now wait for the comments from the graduates of the University of "DUHHHHHH"
Burst oscillations, so what?