Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[MarkE]

I assume you can back this up with actual experiments MarkE?-as i have done.

I can show all day long the difference in electrical energy input that it takes to magnetize one electromagnet or another:  different pole shoe arrangements, with or without PM's in the magnetic circuit etc.  I object to your claim that you have backed your energy input claims with actual experiments because many times now, I and others have explained to you how your experiment as constructed failed to measure the input energy that goes into magnetizing the magnet.

This always happens with you Mark when some one will not agree with you-as i do not,and have experimental proof to back up my claims. If you are getting angry,then maybe this is not the place for you,or you should just block me-so as you dont have to see what i have to say. This way you will not have to try and convince me of something i know is not true.

If you are going to just stick your fingers in your ears and say "na, na, na" against rock solid science then you only hurt yourself.

I stand by my claim,that PM's can do useful work,and i have experimental data to back it up.

Yes, you do despite the clear and doubtless refutations offered to the validity of your experiments, no matter how well intentioned the experiments are.

I have measured the input energy,by way of stored energy within a capacitor-as i stated a few post back. This is accurate down to the mJ,so im not sure how much more accurate you would like it.

If you want to go into detail with that different experiment we can.  Charging up a capacitor to a fixed level does not establish the magnetization energy.  It sets a limit on the amount of energy that you are testing but with side effects.  It adds additional subtleties in terms of the efficieny of the energy transfer because your different magnet set-ups result in different inductances, and therefore different LC time constants.  It is remarkable that you seem unfazed either by the implication that if what you think you see were real that bed rock physics would be wrong, or that multiple people offering you detailed explanations of what is wrong with your measurements.

[Pirate88179]

Walk across your carpet and touch the door knob.  You might be annoyed, but you will still be standing.  You just discharged a capacitor that on a nice really dry day: say winter indoors in Chicago can get charged to 25kV or more.

Also, walking across that carpet in a very, very dry environment holding a cfl bulb in your hand will cause it to light up brightly in discharge pulses.  By walking, I really mean dragging your feet on the floor while wearing wool socks.  I did this some time ago which proved to me that my college physics professor was wrong when he scolded me about static electricity being unable to do any work.  To my mind, lighting a cfl is work.  The cfl never goes completely dark either and it does get pretty bright before/as a discharge occurs.

Bill

[MarkE]

Also, walking across that carpet in a very, very dry environment holding a cfl bulb in your hand will cause it to light up brightly in discharge pulses.  By walking, I really mean dragging your feet on the floor while wearing wool socks.  I did this some time ago which proved to me that my college physics professor was wrong when he scolded me about static electricity being unable to do any work.  To my mind, lighting a cfl is work.  The cfl never goes completely dark either and it does get pretty bright before/as a discharge occurs.

Bill

A reasonable complaint about many a teacher is that they can fall into dogmatic posturing.  Static electricity doesn't do any work:  As long as it remains static.  But stored charge is more than happy find its way through circuit paths intended or not doing work that is beneficial or otherwise.  Some smart ass student could walk into class witha static discharge gun and ask the teacher if static electricity can't do any work, would the teacher mind extending his / her finger for a few moments to help with an edifying experiment.

[Pirate88179]

A reasonable complaint about many a teacher is that they can fall into dogmatic posturing.  Static electricity doesn't do any work:  As long as it remains static.  But stored charge is more than happy find its way through circuit paths intended or not doing work that is beneficial or otherwise.  Some smart ass student could walk into class witha static discharge gun and ask the teacher if static electricity can't do any work, would the teacher mind extending his / her finger for a few moments to help with an edifying experiment.

Duh!  This makes total sense to me now.  All I was doing was charging up a capacitor (me) and discharging it into the cfl.  This allowed the static electricity to no longer remain static.  Sorry, I never thought of it that way...I just knew that it worked and he was wrong...well sort of.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Maybe my past experiments can help here.

I had found in my mostly magnet motor design that I could increase an electromagnet pull force by adding PM.

I started with a small model that could pull 250 grams on the scale with a power input of 1/2 a watt. So I built a bigger model and could pull 500 grams with the same 1/2 watt input. So then I built a super model that could pull 2,500 grams with the same 1/2 watt input power.

Do we remember what we learned from this?

Luc

The less you waste, the more you have?