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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: tinman on October 06, 2015, 09:02:06 AM
Current dose flow through a capacitor in the form of displacement current.
See last comment of mine above.

Hi Brad,

I respect your opinion. 

Please go through this text carefully when you have a few minutes:

http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/z014.htm

Gyula

tinman

Quote from: gyulasun on October 06, 2015, 09:23:20 AM
Hi Brad,

I respect your opinion. 

Please go through this text carefully when you have a few minutes:

http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/z014.htm

Gyula

i will do for sure Gyula.

Would you have 15 minutes to watch a video from a guy that knows his stuff?

Current flow through a capacitor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppWBwZS4e7A

MileHigh

I think that it is arguable that the changing electric field between the capacitor plates could also be considered to be a manifestation of the "displacement current."  The changing electric field produces a magnetic field that is analogous to the magnetic field around a current-carrying wire.  The changing electric field is not current flow, but it produces a magnetic field which is the same as the "signature" of current flow through a wire.

In practical reality, these kinds of topics don't amount to a hill of beans and there is no need to worry about them.  There is no "mysterious displacement current" that is "not discussed by 'conventional' electronics experts."  Just like there is no "cold electricity" or "mysterious reactive power" that is somehow "another" kind of power.  These are all false notions that cause unnecessary fuss and muss.

Jeg

Quote from: tinman on October 06, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
i will do for sure Gyula.

Would you have 15 minutes to watch a video from a guy that knows his stuff?

Current flow through a capacitor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppWBwZS4e7A

Hi Tinman
Is that displacement current quicker than electric current? Or is it considered by physics as of the same velocity?

MileHigh

It just occurred to me that there is another interesting angle on all of this when you look at what is happening at the atomic level for a dielectric in a capacitor.

The atoms get stressed by the electric field between the capacitor plates.  It's the mechanical stressing of atoms that give rise to the measurable permittivity of the dielectric material.  So you have say positive charge on the top plate and negative charge on the bottom plate.  The negative electron cloud of the atom is attracted upwards to the positive plate and displaces slightly.  The positive nucleus of the atom is attracted downwards to the negative plate and displaces slightly.  You end up with stressed atoms that are slightly "bent out of shape" that are effectively little units that are storing energy like little compressed springs.  They all generate a net electric field that is opposite to the applied electric field from the capacitor plates.

So, in the dielectric, you have negative charges moving slightly upwards and positive charges moving slightly downwards.  Both components represent conventional current flow in the downwards direction.  So, in a sense, AC current is "flowing" through the dielectric because of the displacing electron clouds and nuclei.