Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

If one really worked at it, all that one has to do is follow the signal paths through the simple circuit.  You record multiple waveforms and then line them up in a master timing diagram.  You explain what is going on and how one signal affects another signal.

You follow the energy trail in the master timing diagram and you show derived energy waveforms and show exactly where the pulse is that is supposedly manifesting the extra pulse of energy.  You show how, when, and where energy is going from point A to point B in the circuit.  You do the work and you do a full audit of the energy trail and you show exactly where and when the alleged extra energy is manifesting itself.

Now, this should not be too hard to do for a circuit that consists of 10 components or less.

However, this is never done and instead some people are content to see a LED illuminated and two unexplained waveforms as "proof" that the Akula circuit is allegedly doing what they say it is doing.

Nobody will ever offer proof for a simple Akula circuit that meets the standard that I outline above.  Meeting that standard would result in "self-busting."

A sensible start... then it slowly gets worse...

We seem to value Belief so much!!! Why?

Surely weight of evidence is more valuable than Belief?

Maybe this is the problem with Humans, engineered to be a Slave Race for Eternity!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[Magluvin]

Thanks Poynt.

Now-what induces an EMF and current flow in the generating coils of a permanent magnet alternator?

Bang bang!  You got me!

That was what I was building up to with my line of questioning. But you posted it first. Let me expand on that.


Right. What about a magnets field inducing a coil.  Say we have 2 inline air core coils about an inch apart.  We input a sine wave into one coil and we get an output from the other coil, no matter the intensity, we never the less get output. And it is being presented that it is the E field that induces or generates the currents in the secondary, not the mag fields.

Now, lets just put dc on the input coil. If we move that coil with dc input back and forth, closer and farther away from the inline secondary, what field is inducing or generating the currents in the secondary? E fields or mag fields?

And then, we replace the input coil with a magnet and move it back and forth to and from the receiving coil. What fields are creating the currents in the receiving coil??? E field or mag field???


There seems to be the idea of just a swap out of mag field to the E field happening here without much reasoning as to how that conclusion is arrived at.  Not suppose to end sentences with 'at' but I did.


Like sayin to wrap the ground lead of the scope through the core to measure the E field doesnt enlighten me, as I could say that it is the mag fields traversing over the hole of the core that is inducing the scope lead.

More in a bit.

Mags

[Magluvin]

In view of all the discussion regarding transformer induction, may I suggest a paper by Robert Distinti titled "Classic Flux Anomaly" that is located at the link below.

http://www.distinti.com/docs/classfluxan.pdf

partzman

Yep. That was one I posted a few days ago.  A good read and makes a lot of sense.

Mags

[EMJunkie]

A sensible start... then it slowly gets worse...

We seem to value Belief so much!!! Why?

Surely weight of evidence is more valuable than Belief?

Maybe this is the problem with Humans, engineered to be a Slave Race for Eternity!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

@MileHigh - Again I post for you... Will you even attempt to read/Study? I am confident you will not!

The possibility of obtaining energy from the addition of electromagnetic waves were studied experimentally in studies of various types of feeder - waveguide, two-wire, strip, coaxial. Frequency range is from 300 MHz to 12.5 GHz. Power was measured both directly - power meter, or indirectly - detector diodes and voltmeters. As a result, when certain settings in the feeder lines of positive results. With the addition of field amplitudes (in load) dissipated power in the load exceeds the power fed to different channels (using power dividers). The most simple experiment to illustrate the principle of addition of the amplitudes, is an experiment in which three-phase antenna narrowly focused work on one reception room, to which the power meter. The result of this experience: power recorded by the receiving antenna to
nine times greater than that given by each transmitting antenna at a time. On the receiving antenna, the amplitudes (three) of the three transmitting antennas and receiving power is proportional to the square of the amplitude. That is, if the addition of three-phase amplitudes of the power receiving increased nine times!

In fact, everyone might find the following pdf documents very useful.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

P.S: Генератор на неленейной индуктивности = Generator on nonlinear inductance

[tinman]

Bang bang!  You got me!

That was what I was building up to with my line of questioning. But you posted it first. Let me expand on that.


Right. What about a magnets field inducing a coil.  Say we have 2 inline air core coils about an inch apart.  We input a sine wave into one coil and we get an output from the other coil, no matter the intensity, we never the less get output. And it is being presented that it is the E field that induces or generates the currents in the secondary, not the mag fields.

Now, lets just put dc on the input coil. If we move that coil with dc input back and forth, closer and farther away from the inline secondary, what field is inducing or generating the currents in the secondary? E fields or mag fields?

And then, we replace the input coil with a magnet and move it back and forth to and from the receiving coil. What fields are creating the currents in the receiving coil??? E field or mag field???


There seems to be the idea of just a swap out of mag field to the E field happening here without much reasoning as to how that conclusion is arrived at.  Not suppose to end sentences with 'at' but I did.


Like sayin to wrap the ground lead of the scope through the core to measure the E field doesnt enlighten me, as I could say that it is the mag fields traversing over the hole of the core that is inducing the scope lead.

More in a bit.

Mags

quote Poynt

I understand where you're going with this and I know what your answer is.

Present theory dictates two "different" mechanisms to induce an emf; one is the non-motional (electrical) transformer type induction we've been discussing thus far, and the other is motional (mechanical) via the Lorentz force on charge carriers in a magnetic field. However, for some time I have not been convinced that the so-called two mechanisms are actually different. All agree however that the results are identical.

The most common answer to your question is the "magnetic field", but theoretically it depends on your frame of reference according to Einstein and his "Special Relativity". If the magnets move and the coils are stationary, the emf is induced via the E field. If the magnets are stationary and the coils move, then the emf is induced by the B field (via Lorentz force).

Ok,lets add something else to all this.
below is a picture of two homopolar generators. Lets just assume that they are rotating fast enough to create enough voltage to run the LED,and that the magnets and disc rotate together. V1 shows that the brushes and LED are stationary,while V2 shows that there is no brushes,and the LED is rotating with the disc and magnets.The disc and magnets are spun in the direction so as the current flow is correct for the LED to conduct.

So now the questions are
1-will the LED light in V2
2- If the LED dose light in V2, is there the lorentz force present,and if so,how and where dose it act upon the rotating mass?.