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[EMJunkie]

Indeed,and that is where my screwup was
Thanks MH for spotting that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V4VqFSlCxY

As always, Tinman, Nice work!!! Very professional Work!!! and also very through work!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[gotoluc]

I found an online manual for your scope and you probably already know all this, but here is my understanding of how to get the Math measurements to show.

As you obviously know, pressing the Math button displays the Math trace so try the following to get the readings.

Press the "Measure" button to reach the automatic measurements and select the "Voltage" menu.  From this menu, select the input source as "Math" and then press the "Type" button or use the "Universal" knob to select "Cycle Mean" as the measurement type. I think this will display the Math measurements.

You can also define the Math measurements in the "Manual Cursor" mode if you like to use manual cursor control.

Hope this helps!

Edit: I forgot that you have to define which math function you want performed and in this case it would be Ch1 x Ch2.  The manual shows this in the manual cursor setup but is not clear to me in the automatic function. It doesn't help not being familiar with this scope!

partzman

@ Brad

there must also be a math menu that shows up when you activate math functions as you will have to go in it to tell the math function what you want ch 1 to do to ch 2  something like ch1 x ch2 or ch1 + ch2 or ch1 / ch2
You will want to select ch1 x ch2

Excellent video and measurements!... it all looks good to me... but what do I know

All the best to you mate and thanks for going the extra miles when you should be in bed.

Luc

[Dog-One]

Excellent video and measurements!... it all looks good to me... but what do I know

I agree completely.  If there is anyone unwilling to skimp on the measurements, it's Brad.

Me thinks it's time to scale this concept up a bit into the 100 watt range and see if the core poops out or not.

Got my CNC machine back into operation and some HDPE on order.  Time to make some molds to fit this core...

[tinman]

@ Brad

there must also be a math menu that shows up when you activate math functions as you will have to go in it to tell the math function what you want ch 1 to do to ch 2  something like ch1 x ch2 or ch1 + ch2 or ch1 / ch2
You will want to select ch1 x ch2

Excellent video and measurements!... it all looks good to me... but what do I know

All the best to you mate and thanks for going the extra miles when you should be in bed.

Luc

Yes-that is not the problem. I can select the math menu,and select ch1 x ch2 and it displays the resultant wave form. The problem is,there is no option that i can find or select that gets the scope to show the value of the math waveform.

So,once again.
I can select the math function.
I can select ch1 x ch2,and the math wave form is displayed on the screen.
What i cant find is the option where the scope displays the numerical value of that math trace/wave form.

[MileHigh]

You may just need new firmware for the scope.  I am assuming that it has a USB port on it also?  Often you can download a new firmware release and put it on a flash drive.  Then when you power up the scope you hold down some special combination of soft keys and that makes the scope look for a file on the flash drive to update the firmware.

Or perhaps you can put the scope into factory test mode (sometimes called "service mode") by holding down another key combination when you power it up.  You may find a wrongly set parameter like that that you can correct in factory test mode.  You have to know what you are doing because it can be "dangerous" to change the settings in factory test mode.  On some TVs it's a specific sequence of keys on the remote right after power up that puts the TV into service mode.

If you can find the service manual for the scope all of the special key combinations will be documented.  You probably read how when TK got his scope I think he reflashed it a few times with new firmware and there were still bugs.

I am assuming that other people have had the same problem with your scope and there is a fix in firmware.  If you can't find anything by searching then I suggest that you send an email to the company tech support simply asking for the link to the latest firmware and the way to reflash your scope.  Many times companies don't want to openly publicize software bugs but they always correct them anyway for ongoing production.