Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[poynt99]

Circuit and calculations from Test #2.

Try your measurements and calculations like I did, which includes the coil resistances.

If you calculate Pout by using only the output current and total load resistance, it drops to 16.9mW, which is lower than the 18.4mW calculated from the current and voltage. That's a n=86.7%.

[picowatt]

Circuit and calculations from Test #2.

Try your measurements and calculations like I did, which includes the coil resistances.

.99.

You can't have 13.74ma (1.48-.128/98.4) flowing thru R3 and 12.43ma (.128/10.3) flowing thru R2 at the same time.

Likely the measured 10R3 is a tad high due to test lead errors, with the 98R4 value likely a bit more accurate.  One would have to check instrument calibrations to know for sure.   

PW

[tinman]

Tinman,

Would the use of "dismissive" rather than "harsh" have been more appropriate?  I was not trying to rile you.

The 3KHz test appears to have an efficiency of somewhere between 89% and 99% depending on what assumptions one makes regarding the discrepancies in the measured values you provided.  Can you at least acknowledge that you understand that these discrepancies exist as Partzman pointed out? 

If you are claiming an OU of only 5-10%, your measurement accuracy will need to be significantly better than that, which again, as per Partzman's post, it is not.

As for the scope versus FG, possibly I am remembering incorrectly.  I thought there was a disagreement between your scope's measured value and the FG's indicated value in a video you made a while back unrelated to these tests.

As often as this comes up, I am surprised you have not acquired some precision resistors.  A few 1R, 10R and 100R low inductance Caddock TO-220 resistors in 1% or 0.1% precision would prove very useful to you. 

And yes, of course, there is a bias towards always assuming measurement error first when something unusual is encountered.  I wouldn't have it any other way.  (As more often than not, that is indeed the case)

PW

Maybe you were thinking of my power supply?,which has a RS current reading.

Equipment test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNtaij0jGXc

[picowatt]

Maybe you were thinking of my power supply?,which has a RS current reading.

Equipment test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNtaij0jGXc

Tinman,

That's impressive having all those measurements match up that well.  A preponderance of evidence, as they say!  Consider checking at different (higher/lower) values to verify linearity.

As in my last post, I suspect the bulk of the error to be with regard to the measurement of the 10R3 resistors. 

What does your ohmmeter read with its leads shorted on low ohms range?

PW

[poynt99]

PW,

Yes, obviously something is amiss in the measurements, as I noted in my post (while you were posting too I guess).

Otherwise, the two methods of calculating the power out would equal. In either case however, the n<100%.

Most meter leads are about 1 Ohm resistance. I suspect Brad has not taken this into account, and may be the source of error.