Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[Jimboot]

Upper trace (yellow) is the primary, lower(blue) is the secondary.

I observed that too, and I don't have an answer but will check back when I do.

This was my first posted screenshot with the new Rigol DS1054Z. I still have a lot to learn to master this scope, but I'm getting there.

Regards, Vortex1

geez I'm still struggling to work out where the P to P read out is. LOL

[tinman]

Loose coupling losses
Fluxus spray - Loss
Induction-loss transmission.

Free energy?

Where surplus?

There will never be any surplus in a standard transformer configuration.
Surplus will only be found in a configuration where the 1- flux velocity through the secondary exceeds that of what the primary projects(this will result in the secondary having a higher voltage across it than the primary in a 1:1 winding ratio),and 2- where the field strength through the secondary exceeds that which the primary produces(this will result in a higher available current flow from the secondary to that of the provided current to the primary in a 1:1 winding ratio).

In the HTT(hybrid toroid transformer) we already have proven requirement 1,as we have an increase in voltage from the inner secondary over that provided to the primary. As we have a 1:1 winding ratio,and a secondary voltage that exceeds that given to the primary by a factor of about 200%,then we know the velocity of the flux cutting the secondary is much higher than the primary projects. Now we are just working on requirement 2.

[MileHigh]

There will never be any surplus in a standard transformer configuration.
Surplus will only be found in a configuration where the 1- flux velocity through the secondary exceeds that of what the primary projects(this will result in the secondary having a higher voltage across it than the primary in a 1:1 winding ratio),and 2- where the field strength through the secondary exceeds that which the primary produces(this will result in a higher available current flow from the secondary to that of the provided current to the primary in a 1:1 winding ratio).

In the HTT(hybrid toroid transformer) we already have proven requirement 1,as we have an increase in voltage from the inner secondary over that provided to the primary. As we have a 1:1 winding ratio,and a secondary voltage that exceeds that given to the primary by a factor of about 200%,then we know the velocity of the flux cutting the secondary is much higher than the primary projects. Now we are just working on requirement 2.

Where, pray tell, are you getting these ideas from?  I suspect that you are inventing them out of thin air and they are your own personal attempt to explain and rationalize what you are doing and what you are observing.  That won't work.

There is no such thing as "flux velocity" and your entire subsequent argument and explanation for what you are observing that falls out of that false notion is nonsense.  There is no point in trying to reinvent the wheel and put your own spin on it.

Try looking and studying these three videos to form a foundation for your understanding.  This is my favourite teacher about this stuff on YouTube and all of his videos are worth looking at.  If basic calculus is a hurdle that you need to get over to understand what he is saying then my suggestion is to not be shy and ask away.  I am sure somebody can help.  You can also just Google integrals and derivatives on your own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0SRan7UW6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrwNIWlbcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXmv2d1OeU4

Your comments are like some kind of a cargo cult of magnetism.  It's just not the way to go.

[MileHigh]

Faraday's Law and Induced Electric Fields, Parts I and II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DH7ufrkeHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de4CWQoJ684

So you understand flux, and you understand how that ties into Faraday's Law and how you can induce an electric field into a single turn of wire, or a spiral coil of wire.  And that gives you the basic set of tools to try and figure out what your non-standard toroidal transformer is doing.

Did you see my analysis of the flux in the core for the aiding configuration?  Did you see how Poynt basically endorsed the statements that I made?  Well, when you have your primary driving the double toroidal core and you have a load or a no load condition on the inner secondary, you should be trying to do the same type of analysis that I did for the aiding configuration.  I don't think you acknowledged the analysis done for the aiding configuration so I don't know if you tried to follow it and understand it or not.

What I did in trying to understand the aiding configuration is the real thing, and you should be trying to use the same basic concepts and techniques to figure out what is happening in your transformer when the primary is supplying power and the inner secondary is either open circuit or driving a load.  You have a huge advantage over me, you can do experiments on your device and make observations and use that information to help you figure out how it works.

"Flux velocity" is nonsense, it doesn't exist.  We already know how a coil generates EMF, that is not up for debate at all.  What we don't know is precisely what is happening in your non-standard toroidal core that results in the observed EMF and observed EMF under load.  All that you are really trying to do is work out the mechanics for what is happening, and then the observed results will fall out of that.  Inventing some cockamamie explanation for what you are observing is absolutely wrong.

[MileHigh]

Interesting MH,, Einstein called that velocity C,, but I guess you are saying that it is nonsense,, so I guess it must be so.

As well as,, it is in the rate of change in flux density,, rate of change,, a velocity,, go figure.

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You are talking B.S.  How about you rebut you own statements and talk sensibly and indicate that you fully understand context and you are capable of connecting ideas together into a coherent thought.  Express an idea where it's implicit that you and your peers have a mutually understood and reasonable agreed upon frame of reference.