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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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partzman

Quote from: gyulasun on November 02, 2015, 05:31:50 AM
Hi Carroll,

He clarified it in his Reply# 6010 : "...I just noticed a typo in the description of the Vishay csr on the schematic that should read  .5 x 2 = 1 ohm   not  .05 x 2 = 1ohm." 

Hi Partzman,

Thanks for showing the new schematic, it includes coil L3  (44.4 uH)  which was not shown or referred to earlier.
Does L3 have any magnetic coupling to T1 or it is an independent coil from T1?  Is it also made of Litz wire and also air cored?

Perhaps you could show a picture of the coils?

One more question:  is the duty cycle 50% for the input square wave? If yes, did you test COP with lower duty cycles?

Thanks, 
Gyula

Gyula,

OK, I must explain that I am located in Kansas, USA and that I am a Royals baseball fan so, in my haste to watch last nights game (in which they won the World Series BTW), I inadvertently attached the data for a variant of my original post that contained additional info. If you look at the scope shots one will notice the pout = 1.292w and the pin = 123mw for a COP = 10.5. Also notice the value change for C1 and C2 along with the additional components you pointed out.

I've attached a pix of the simple bifilar coil. 

L3 is not coupled to L1 or L2 and I used a ceramic cored and coated rf inductor for L3 but any reasonable quality inductor will work. I used a mica for C3 but I'm sure a good quality metalized film would work as well. L3 and C3 form a series resonant circuit that is ~2x the normal fo (420Khz) of the network itself. One can experiment with the L/C ratio and see the effects so you can use what you have on hand as long as the resonance is ~840Khz to replicate what is shown.

I would like to note that I used a decoupling cap (.1mfd mono not shown) between the pulse generator and L3.

I used 50% for the duty cycle and tried variations but the optimum performance was with 50%.  I am currently however experimenting with series and parallel self resonant circuits for the network source that are driven or pumped with extremely short duty cycles but that is a subject for later.

partzman

EDIT: Note that C1 and C2 did not change!


picowatt

Tinman,

In your test using the 1R connected to your FG, where/how did you connect the 1R to the FG?

Also, I would have thought that the measurement would have been made with your circuit connected, functioning, and measuring exactly as it was in a previous scope shot.  Otherwise, a new set of scope data is required.  Try to change only one variable at a time. 

PW

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on November 02, 2015, 09:19:32 AM
Tinman,

In your test using the 1R connected to your FG, where/how did you connect the 1R to the FG?

Also, I would have thought that the measurement would have been made with your circuit connected, functioning, and measuring exactly as it was in a previous scope shot.  Otherwise, a new set of scope data is required.  Try to change only one variable at a time. 

PW

OK,maybe it's time to start talking english here. Is the setup depicted in scope shot 1 not what MH was refering to?. Also,the circuit was connected-as in scope shot 1.
The 1 ohm CVR is connected via FG lead's.

We seem to be running around in circles here. All the time the likes of MH insist on schematics,and yet they them self seem quite happy to just use words to describe test to be carried out,and we are left to decipher those words,and carry out the tests.

As far as i can work out from MH's word's,i have set up the DUT as he describes,and carried out the tests.

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on November 02, 2015, 09:19:32 AM
Tinman,

In your test using the 1R connected to your FG, where/how did you connect the 1R to the FG?

Also, I would have thought that the measurement would have been made with your circuit connected, functioning, and measuring exactly as it was in a previous scope shot.  Otherwise, a new set of scope data is required.  Try to change only one variable at a time. 

PW

How can it be measured exactly as it was in previous test when MH wants one probe either side of the 1 ohm CVR?,where as in other test,we had 1 channel measuring current,and the other measuring voltage.

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on November 02, 2015, 09:33:15 AM
OK,maybe it's time to start talking english here. Is the setup depicted in scope shot 1 not what MH was refering to?. Also,the circuit was connected-as in scope shot 1.
The 1 ohm CVR is connected via FG lead's.

We seem to be running around in circles here. All the time the likes of MH insist on schematics,and yet they them self seem quite happy to just use words to describe test to be carried out,and we are left to decipher those words,and carry out the tests.

As far as i can work out from MH's word's,i have set up the DUT as he describes,and carried out the tests.

Tinman,

I thought my question was English.

Where and how was the 1R connected to the FG?

For example, did you make a special fixture using BNC's to position the 1R directly at the FG output or did you just connect it at the far end of a BNC cable or use clip leads?

Also, is this your non-inductive 1R?

The whole point of performing the measurement DIRECTLY at the FG's BNC was to eliminate cable inductance/capacitance from that measurement.

PW