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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie

Electricity is NOT "Generated"!!!

Electricity is the accumulation of Charge that is "Separated" and it is the Lorentz Force that does it! + to one Terminal and - to the other!

Really, believe what you want, but if its Ignorance that guides you, or worse Arrogance, then the Human Race is doomed!

A Machine that simulates the right parameters for Charge Separation is doing the Exact Same job that ANY Electrical "Generator" does and if you believe in them, then the later has to follow! Period!!!

I don't see what the difficulty is here!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

tinman

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 01, 2015, 08:10:53 PM

Electricity is NOT "Generated"!!!



Really, believe what you want, but if its Ignorance that guides you, or worse Arrogance, then the world is doomed!

A Machine that simulates the right parameters for Charge Separation is doing the Exact Same job that ANY Electrical "Generator" does and if you believe in them, then the later has to follow! Period!

I don't see what the difficulty is here!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

QuoteElectricity is the accumulation of Charge that is "Separated" and it is the Lorentz Force that does it! + to one Terminal and - to the other!

Is that  correct ?. A capacitor always has charge-it never loses it's charge. To gain work from a capacitor,we must create an imbalance of that charge. It is that imbalance that has the potential to do work,not the charge within the capacitor,as the charge always remains the same within that capacitor. But now that charge has no potential difference,and so cannot flow,but the charge is still separated,only now there is an even amount on each plate.

Is it possible to design a capacitor where an imbalance of charge can exist even after that capacitors potential difference is depleted by way of a resistive load placed across it?.

I believe that i can take a capacitor and modify it so as a potential difference can be created across that capacitor using nothing but the charge that already exist in that capacitor. What im saying is,i believe it possible to start with a capacitor that has 0 volts across it,and end up with a voltage across it using nothing but the charge stored within it.
Would this be free energy?.

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on December 01, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
Is that  correct ?. A capacitor always has charge-it never loses it's charge. To gain work from a capacitor,we must create an imbalance of that charge. It is that imbalance that has the potential to do work,not the charge within the capacitor,as the charge always remains the same within that capacitor. But now that charge has no potential difference,and so cannot flow,but the charge is still separated,only now there is an even amount on each plate.

Is it possible to design a capacitor where an imbalance of charge can exist even after that capacitors potential difference is depleted by way of a resistive load placed across it?.

I believe that i can take a capacitor and modify it so as a potential difference can be created across that capacitor using nothing but the charge that already exist in that capacitor. What im saying is,i believe it possible to start with a capacitor that has 0 volts across it,and end up with a voltage across it using nothing but the charge stored within it.
Would this be free energy?.


Tinman, I think you already answered your own question.

Take a Capacitor, Charge it - Positive Charge will accumulate on one Plate and Negative on the other.

Discharge it quickly into something, measure the Voltage across the Capacitor

Sit the capacitor on the bench, not connected to anything.

After 10 minutes Measure the Charge again... Yep it will regain some Charge. Just a little bit.

A Capacitor has Capacity! Capacity to hold Charge.

So yes, the Terminal's of an Electrical "Generator" have a Charge Potential Difference between them. This is Induction, no matter what the design of the "Generator" as long as the requirements of Charge Separation are met. One could say the "Generator" has its own Capacity! Normally rated in Watts or Kilowatts. The coulombs per second, 1 Watt is 1 coulomb per second, 1 Farad is 1 coulomb per second - I hope I got that bit right!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

digitalindustry

Quote from: tinman on December 01, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
Is that  correct ?. A capacitor always has charge-it never loses it's charge. To gain work from a capacitor,we must create an imbalance of that charge. It is that imbalance that has the potential to do work,not the charge within the capacitor,as the charge always remains the same within that capacitor. But now that charge has no potential difference,and so cannot flow,but the charge is still separated,only now there is an even amount on each plate.

Is it possible to design a capacitor where an imbalance of charge can exist even after that capacitors potential difference is depleted by way of a resistive load placed across it?.

I believe that i can take a capacitor and modify it so as a potential difference can be created across that capacitor using nothing but the charge that already exist in that capacitor. What im saying is,i believe it possible to start with a capacitor that has 0 volts across it,and end up with a voltage across it using nothing but the charge stored within it.
Would this be free energy?.

I like the way you think TM.

Is it not true that a 'capacitor' and an 'inductior' are just mirror twins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GLidgxMr4s

the capacitor is counter-spacial and the inductor is spacial. 

(i.e a cap acts like a centripetal focus point and a coil pushes a field outwards.) 

is it not clear that we are talking about 'gravity' (the word)

this makes it clear that even 'gravity' is just an effect of a field though a frequency.

i agree if you disrupt the field you could achieve this (as you stated), people talk about these things called 'tank circuits' (just a Cap and Coil fluctuating at their resonate frequency)

the key Question for me is what are these things 'the human words'

a Volt?
a unit of current?

if we look at a oscilloscope our word isn't 2D it's 3D

think about a pulse in a 3D space ( a spheroid) it has say an XY  (up down) and  say AB (front back)
is not a 'Volt' one measurement and a unit of 'current' the other?

when we say it's 'out of phase' is this not just a distortion of this field?

digitalindustry

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 01, 2015, 09:01:49 PM

Tinman, I think you already answered your own question.

Take a Capacitor, Charge it - Positive Charge will accumulate on one Plate and Negative on the other.

Discharge it quickly into something, measure the Voltage across the Capacitor

Sit the capacitor on the bench, not connected to anything.

After 10 minutes Measure the Charge again... Yep it will regain some Charge. Just a little bit.

A Capacitor has Capacity! Capacity to hold Charge.

So yes, the Terminal's of an Electrical "Generator" have a Charge Potential Difference between them. This is Induction, no matter what the design of the "Generator" as long as the requirements of Charge Separation are met. One could say the "Generator" has its own Capacity! Normally rated in Watts or Kilowatts. The coulombs per second, 1 Watt is 1 coulomb per second, 1 Farad is 1 coulomb per second - I hope I got that bit right!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Chris the misunderstand here is, he is saying the charge always exists, what you interpret as the slight 'recharge' is a slight in-balance of that charge.

he's (correctly i believe) saying the energy is always in the field.

i think he's right, and consequently the same must be correct for an 'induction' coil. (the mirror twin of a capacitor)

as it is spacial, and this is proven correct as when you disrupt the field you get 'workable energy' (which is really just a movement of a field)