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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie

Quote from: digitalindustry on December 05, 2015, 10:40:03 PM
one more time for the forum:

if you watch Tinmans HHO video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM

and then look at the image of the 'Don smith system'

you might find that there are 3 key things 'tuning' the freq of the Primary in the image:

- the Variac
- The cap
and
- The spark gap

this is all in the objective to make that primary pulse at a certain freq.

the viraic is adjusted for the spark gap efficiency, the cap is adjusted for the speed to fire.

then after that the Primary mag field effects strongly the 'partnered coil' system on the secondary.

this seems viable to me.


Yes once one starts looking examples of Partnered Output Coils are everywhere!

Not always Over Unity, because they don't always go Over Unity, there is a certain guide line that one has to follow, which I have already outlined. It takes a little work, a lot of thinking and possible just a little bit of luck...

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

PIH123

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 06, 2015, 03:08:09 PM
Not always Over Unity, because they don't always go Over Unity, there is a certain guide line that one has to follow, which I have already outlined. It takes a little work, a lot of thinking and possible just a little bit of luck...

I would like to reiterate what Chris has said above using his own words.

Post 274 on page 19 (over 400 pages back BTW)
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg434894/#msg434894

One of Ten Devices may work as I have said


So make sure you go into this with the mindset that, even if you follow the specs to the letter,
you have only a 1 in 10 chance of it working.

But Good Luck all

Pete

stivep


PART1:

Quote from: digitalindustry on December 05, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
Tinman and others -

have you seen this?

isn't it strange what you can do with just some sound-waves and water?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWO93G-zLZ0

people can do this pretty easily i think

in fact i think amazon sold a kit but searching it on google (don't be evil) it seem to be a 'blocked' search now ha ha

anyhow i wonder if anyone calculated the heat inside the bubble with the energy to produce the sound waves?
Thank you for the video

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoluminescence
in this article  it is important to  analyze Quote:
QuoteIn SBSL, a single bubble trapped in an acoustic standing wave emits a pulse of light with each compression of the bubble within the standing wave.This technique allowed a more systematic study of the phenomenon, because it isolated the complex effects into one stable, predictable bubble. It was realized that the temperature inside the bubble was hot enough to melt steel.[citation needed] Interest in sonoluminescence was renewed when an inner temperature of such a bubble well above one millionkelvins was postulated.[citation needed] This temperature is thus far not conclusively proven; rather, recent experiments conducted by theUniversity of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign indicate temperatures around 20000 K.
it would be 19726.85 Celsius or 35540.33 Fahrenheit.!!!


Also important is to note:
QuoteSingle-bubble sonoluminescence pulses can have very stable periods and positions.!!!


the power of released and indicated by  flashes energy, is no more than 10mW per flash (* multiply by number  of flashes), and will "never" be more than total power of sound source.However  it can be used as a trigger.
Who said that we have to pay for sound, or the sound conversion.
Think about ten  $1 bills.... .... equals 10 when added, in one particular pocket.
Think about  then  people singing  at the same time to  the same  tube .
Think about thermal conductivity
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/thrcn.html


I have some ideas how to convert that energy to usable form of energy  to us.
However It is not substantiated  in my  head well enough  to be published, and by that once published it must be  immune  from many human elements  of poor judgement and no class - these scumbags  from you guys  who would like to  take advantage and patent  it. I'll make sure  that  whatever I publish is in the form well  enough to become public property once and forever.
I'm not communist, Free  Energy is communistic.


Yes I might also think  about patenting something to my own pleasure of   making crowd a licensed beneficiary and  reach wealthy industry the losers.
But that is my dream for  big guys paying  hundreds times more than simple Joe, just because I  like it this way.


AND NOW LOOK AT PICTURE FROM THE BOTTOM AND START THINKING about what is said above and  relation to the  thermal conductivity.













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PART 2:


Everything said below is not related to upper part

Quote from: digitalindustry on December 05, 2015, 11:33:56 AM

QuoteQuote from: tinman on December 05, 2015, 05:12:53 PMNo. When an arc forms across the spark gap,it shorts the secondary/capacitor circuit. this creates a very strong magnetic field in and around the transformer core,and thus gives the primary a big kick in the ass so to speak.


Have you ever played around with coil shorting circuit's?,if so,then you should know how this is working. The ark(spark) is nothing more than a path for the current to flow through.




Quote from: digitalindustry on December 05, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
ah yeah i understand now i'm just not using the correct words in this case.
that is correct you are not using correct words in this case.



Quote from: digitalindustry on December 05, 2015, 11:33:56 AM
ah so the freq is derived from the cap, you 'tune' the spark gap for prime efficiency.

i understand now, it's  a great design, your own idea?
Frequency is not delivered to the capacitor.
The signal
-of given shape
and 
- at  certain  potential ( voltage)
described by
- power in given time frame
gives you conditions to  understand it as  burst, continuous  or impulse.
By that when  such signal is delivered to capacitor it  is altered  by
- inductive  reactance
and
- capacitive reactance   that this capacitor represents to that  signal,  at that given frequency of that signal.
Simply the capacitor is no longer capacitor and it is  analyzed, also as  resonance circuit alone, or component of another resonance circuit the capacitor is part of.
So say, this capacitor  is calculated in  any other resonance  circuit,   having:
-Parallel Resonance and the Parallel RLC Resonant Circuit with Resistance, Inductance and Capacitance connected together
or  series Resonance and the Series RLC Resonant Circuit with Resistance, Inductance and Capacitance connected together
or mix of Series  and  Parallel. (-known and measured as equivalent circuit)

By that capacitor alone will have three  the most significant resonance  frequencies:
-series
- parallel
- equivalent circuit ( mix)
measured  with  spectrum analyzer it will show  response  in 3 different resonance frequencies


the resonance circuit the capacitor is part of will have also the most significant resonance  frequencies::
-series
- parallel
- equivalent circuit ( mix)
and again  when measured  with  spectrum analyzer it will show response  in  set of another three  main but significantly different resonance frequencies comparing to capacitor alone measurement.



Plasma will than be  a conductor characterized by   its impedance
All other parameters taken to consideration most likely  will depend  on  impedance of that spark.


Impedance " is made"(- terminology used  for simplicity) from
-resistance,
- inductive  reactance
- capacitive reactance


http://rfic.eecs.berkeley.edu/142/pdf/book_chap7.pdf
Even if reactances could be equal  to (zero)  0 ohm- the resistance will still be present in the circuit unless in cryogenic temperatures ( superconductivity)
QuoteAt resonance the impedance takes on a minimal value. It's worthwhile to investigate the cause of resonance, or the cancellation of the reactive components due to the inductor and capacitor. Since the inductor and capacitor voltages are always 180◦ out of phase, and one reactance is dropping while the other is increasing, there is clearly always a frequency when the magnitudes are equal RESONACE  is close to no impedance.
in our case  please do not think about inductors and capacitors  but inductive and capacitive reactive response - reactance of conductor ( it is exactly the same as talking about L and C)




Every piece of conductor( wire) is  a resonance circuit by itself                           even if not connected anywhere .
Every piece of conductor( wire) has inductance, capacitance, resistance            even if not connected anywhere .
Impedance is property of AC
NOT DC!!!
However any variation of DC creates impedance in the time frame (- in given time frame= time of change)
Plasma is a conductor and resonance circuit with very much  unstable parameters.
Plasma will also be resonance  circuit that  being unstable has 3 main resonances series,  parallel and equivalent circuit but  per fraction for the  second( microsecond) of steady or close to steady state.
In  reality Plasma will be  showing on  Spectrum  Analyzer sort of very wide  envelope of the most significant resonances getting low in amplitude starting  from very high frequencies going up (the hill) and sloping  very low  at low frequency of the  spectrum.
Picture it as the hill with slopes but  high frequency and low frequency slopes are not  symmetric.
As the time goes you will observe "the top of the  hill" fluctuating  more to the right (LF) or to the left(HF)
Usually the  longer the gap distance , the lower is  resonance frequency (of   "top of the hill") of maximum resonance of plasma.
That mechanism is precisely identical to length of piece of wire acting as antenna or resonace circuit- the longer the wire the lower is its resonace frequency.



Wesley




The picture from below  belongs to part #1

tinman

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 05, 2015, 09:00:24 PM

@Tinman, you up for a little topic changer?

@All - I made a statement a few posts back, and have made it many times in the past. Maybe no one quite understands it?
.

Ok, so lets talk about this? Lets start asking questions, see why this is important!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

What topic changer?

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on December 06, 2015, 06:29:15 PM
What topic changer?



Well, good point, its not really. Same Topic, just another re-iteration.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org