Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[ramset]

SeyChelles
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This can easily be proven like when JEAN LOUIS NAUDIN was testing the
GENENE USING AN INDUCTION COOKTOP.. The most accurate compound
to test with is distill water . One litre  of distill water takes so many watts , joules
what ever you want to call it to heat it up from X degrees to Y DEGREES IN SO MANY MINUTES..
SO TK WE DO NOT NEED A LABORATORY AND A BUNCH OF NASA ENGINEERS  TO FIGURE THAT OUT
DO WE..DO THE TEST WITH STRAIGHT 240V WITH AN ORDINARY KETTLE THEN MONITOR THE WHAT EVER YOU
WANT TO MONITOR . THEN SAME VIA THE TRANSFORMER.. EVEN A WACKO DUMBO FROM SEYCHELLES CAN FIGURE THAT
OUT.. KEEP IT SIMPLE GUYS.. OTHERWISE THE BOOKIMAN WILL LAUGH AT US.. 
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Yes around this neighborhood making proper measurements has always been a problem, the learning curve can really sting.

Caloric measurement is sooo much simpler and much more reliable for the layman.

actually all you need is a cardboard box a Meter and a thermometer . and a control test .
if your claimed input is 700 watts put the appropriate resistor for your load inside the cardboard box ,turn things on [700 watt input]and run the test until your thermometer stops rising and can no longer make heat against ambient loss,
note the temp and shut it off.[this is your 700 watt Control]
now put your 700 watt device in the same box [at same ambient temp] run the test again ,if you make the box Hotter
than the control test [by a significant amount]
do the happy dance
if you don't make it any hotter , you are not OU !

A very very simple and fool proof process that I STRONGLY recommend "replicators" Do.

unless you have a self runner.

respectfully
Chet
PS
Thanks To ION/Vortex1  for teaching me this quick, cheap and super simple process years ago ,it has saved Myself and MAMY others countless hours of wasted time trying to sort our claims.

[EMJunkie]

SeyChelles
Quote
This can easily be proven like when JEAN LOUIS NAUDIN was testing the
GENENE USING AN INDUCTION COOKTOP.. The most accurate compound
to test with is distill water . One litre  of distill water takes so many watts , joules
what ever you want to call it to heat it up from X degrees to Y DEGREES IN SO MANY MINUTES..
SO TK WE DO NOT NEED A LABORATORY AND A BUNCH OF NASA ENGINEERS  TO FIGURE THAT OUT
DO WE..DO THE TEST WITH STRAIGHT 240V WITH AN ORDINARY KETTLE THEN MONITOR THE WHAT EVER YOU
WANT TO MONITOR . THEN SAME VIA THE TRANSFORMER.. EVEN A WACKO DUMBO FROM SEYCHELLES CAN FIGURE THAT
OUT.. KEEP IT SIMPLE GUYS.. OTHERWISE THE BOOKIMAN WILL LAUGH AT US.. 
end quote

Yes around this neighborhood making proper measurements has always been a problem, the learning curve can really sting.

Caloric measurement is sooo much simpler and much more reliable for the layman.

actually all you need is a cardboard box a Meter and a thermometer . and a control test .
if your claimed input is 700 watts put the appropriate resistor for your load inside the cardboard box ,turn things on [700 watt input]and run the test until your thermometer stops rising and can no longer make heat against ambient loss,
note the temp and shut it off.[this is your 700 watt Control]
now put your 700 watt device in the same box [at same ambient temp] run the test again ,if you make the box Hotter
than the control test [by a significant amount]
do the happy dance
if you don't make it any hotter , you are not OU !

A very very simple and fool proof process that I STRONGLY recommend "replicators" Do.

unless you have a self runner.

respectfully
Chet
PS
Thanks To ION/Vortex1  for teaching me this quick, cheap and super simple process years ago ,it has saved Myself and MAMY others countless hours of wasted time trying to sort our claims.

Chet, I agree that the calorimetry technique is a good and reasonably accurate way to see if your Electrical Energy conversion to Heat Energy, through Resistive Load, is showing you what you want to see.

All I have to advice is, make sure your Isolation barrier between Outside Ambient where your device is running and other equipment, and inside where you have your Resistive Load (Heating Element) is well insulated from external Temperature Drifts. Thermal transfer of Heat/Cold, via a draft, or poorly chosen material can make this test inaccurate...

I mean, we all debate so much, here on this forum, about the inaccuracy of power measurements. Really, the biggest problem is the very poor quality, I mean the accuracy of, Instruments.

Check your Instruments, benchmark them against other known to be correct instruments!!! If they are not right, send them back to the manufacturer and complain!!! Let's do something about this at an Industry level not a verbal complain on a forum!

Stay away from High Frequency! This is the biggest area of error I have seen.

Calibrate your equipment on a regular basis if you can!!!

In saying all this, these meters, Mains Power Meters, at Mains Frequency, and Mains Voltages, are generally, reasonably, most of the time, very accurate!!! I have only seen one in error when not used at Mains Frequency!

Again, dismissing any device, because of a POSSIBLE Measurement error is simply, totally unprofessional!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[Pirate88179]

Chet, I agree that the calorimetry technique is a good and reasonably accurate way to see if your Electrical Energy conversion to Heat Energy, through Resistive Load, is showing you what you want to see.

All I have to advice is, make sure your Isolation barrier between Outside Ambient where your device is running and other equipment, and inside where you have your Resistive Load (Heating Element) is well insulated from external Temperature Drifts. Thermal transfer of Heat/Cold, via a draft, or poorly chosen material can make this test inaccurate...

I mean, we all debate so much, here on this forum, about the inaccuracy of power measurements. Really, the biggest problem is the very poor quality, I mean the accuracy of, Instruments.

Check your Instruments, benchmark them against other known to be correct instruments!!! If they are not right, send them back to the manufacturer and complain!!! Let's do something about this at an Industry level not a verbal complain on a forum!

Stay away from High Frequency! This is the biggest area of error I have seen.

Calibrate your equipment on a regular basis if you can!!!

In saying all this, these meters, Mains Power Meters, at Mains Frequency, and Mains Voltages, are generally, reasonably, most of the time, very accurate!!! I have only seen one in error when not used at Mains Frequency!

Again, dismissing any device, because of a POSSIBLE Measurement error is simply, totally unprofessional!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Presenting ANY device as being O.U. utilizing measurement errors is totally unprofessional.

Bill

[ramset]

The idea of a fixed loss to ambient test is to use the Ambient as the loss mechanism ,not to insulate against it.
I like to run two tests at the same time in the same environment.
say two 3x3 sealed cardboard boxes ,one has the resistor in it  ,the other the Device.

for argument sake lets put Wistisi's  DUT to the test

he has 700 watts in and 900 watts out...in my control box I put my heat resistor with the 700 watt input
in the other box I put the device which makes 900 watts with 700 watts input.

both Boxes have 700 watts input and will reach a maximum temperature against the cold night air, which the ambient losses will not allow the temp to rise past.

in this case one box should get MUCH hotter than the control .



a very quick and very cheap method to help validate a claim and help rule out measurement error.

@ Note certain things can bring in energy unbeknownst to the inventor [ equipment can inadvertently add power [flea power]]
but ground loops can be more serious sources of apparent excess energy.

that is why working with those more familiar with these problems can be most helpful .


respectfully

Chet

[TinselKoala]

@Seychelles - Exactly Right!

Simple as possible, don't over complicate anything! It is all very simple! Its a simple build! Its not complicated!

Please: Fuse it don't Loose it!

Lets not forget, these are Mains Frequency's! Using Mains Power Metering Equipment!!! Mains Voltages, so be careful!

This device (The Wistiti Partnered Output Coil Toroid) has been replicated at least 4 times I know of. It works!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Repeating bad measurements doesn't suddenly make them good.

The claim is something like this: The toroid takes in, say, 700 Watts and puts out 800 Watts. Right?

So connect two of them in series, with a 100 Watt bulb as an additional parallel load. That is, take the "800 watts" output of the first one, connect a 100 Watt bulb and the second toroid in parallel to the output of the first one.

Then take a third toroid and a second 100 Watt bulb and connect these to the output of the second toroid. Keep going until you are lighting, say, 10 each 100 watt bulbs to full brilliance and still measuring 800 watts output from the last toroid.

There's your "Free energy" actually doing something other than making numbers flash on a cheap consumer-grade meter. And no "NASA Engineers" need be harmed by the procedure.

Or... as I have said all along, use _proper_ measuring instruments that are properly calibrated and properly used. Then your reports may have some credibility.